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submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

The Democratic Party is launching an "all-out war" to block third parties from appearing on the 2024 US election ballot. This is in response to declining support for President Biden and the Democratic Party. The World Socialist Web Site has published articles exposing these anti-democratic efforts, which have received widespread attention and support on social media. Third party candidates like Jill Stein and Cornel West have condemned the Democratic Party's actions as an assault on democratic rights and voter choice. The Socialist Equality Party has also voiced support for the right of independent and third party candidates to access the ballot, connecting this to the broader fight against the corporate-controlled two-party system.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Rather than try to take away ballot options that would better represent the interests of the American public, perhaps the Democratic Party should focus on passing legislation that would actually help struggling people such as a universal single payer healthcare program or guaranteed housing.

I love when people act like the Democrats have unilateral control over all 3 branches of Government and just gloss over how the party that controls the Courts dismantles Obamacare at every opportunity, and the same party that controls the House and will refuse to pass bills that even they like because of the chance it might make Biden look good.

Sadly, both major political parties in America are fully beholden to the corporate interests which fund the political system.

Of course, topping it off with a little "both sides".

[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

This whole article boils down to "some people are re-tweeting an article we wrote. Let's read some of the tweets together." A little disingenuous to say this means opposition is growing.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

That's the WSW for you, almost feels like it's only purpose is to disingenuously propel leftist infighting.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Third party candidates just hurt the candidate to whom they most closely align in a first past the post system. We should be fighting for ranked choice voting or similar. Only then do third parties do anything other than hurt the most aligned candidate.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The two-party system showed it's flaws well before this election. It forces voters to approve policies they don't support with their vote because they only get to pick from one of two "policy packages". It makes it easier to extend/enact harmful policies because if interest groups can purchase support from both parties they are immune to legislation that doesn't favor them. It divides the country into "us vs. them" because every election there is functionally only Dems vs. Republicans.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

People talk about our "two-party system" as if it's written into our Constitution or something. But there's nothing in the document enforcing parties, and in fact it's rather well documented that the Founders weren't that fond of the idea of parties. Washington actually invited some of his political rivals into cabinet positions in his government, and while I'm sure that ultimately made for better policy is also resulted in some well-documented public infighting. Every President since then has identified with some party.

The main reason we have this system is the math of elections. In all but a handful of states that hold runoffs when no candidate reaches 50%, the winner simply needs a plurality of the vote. So in an election with 5 candidates, someone could easily win with 25% of the vote. But In the next election, 2 opposing candidates realize that if their voters worked together, they could achieve 35% in a four-way election. This leads to consolidation until there are only 2 choices left.

If we want to change our party system, we need to change how we vote. Ranked-choice voting is obvious, if we can get people to understand it. (And someone who strenuously objected to ranked-choice voting could still vote for a single major candidate, ignoring the other choices, and have that vote counted the same way it did before.)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Agreed. Multiple parties lead to coalitions. In Israel's case, that resulted in putting Netanyahu in power. Not every party that put him in power is as far-right as he is, but they weren't going to side with the left either. Now they're living with the consequences, but worse- so are the Palestinians.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

A number of the parties that put Netanyahu in power are further to the right than he is. As far as the right goes in Israel he is pretty middle-of-the-road. Which is fucking terrifying.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Did the Democrats change ballot access laws in the past four years? No?

Well, fuck off with this garbage then.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Oh fuck off with this bullshit. First off, the source is suspect. Secondly, point me to any attempts by Democrats to block third parties from being on an open ballot. I can't read that website at work, but you are going to need a lot more than one or two policy changes/laws enacted to call something "all-out war."

This is more of the same anti-Biden shit that OP posts over and over, never once acknowledging that everything they complain about would be worse under pretty much any other president.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Dump: "I wamma be a dictator on day 1 with all the reverence of Kim Jung Un. I hope to do this with the su- suppo- um- help of the very democracy loving Vlad Dr- Putin. Any one who doesnt like it deserves the gulag, or to be thrown to my brown shirted pooed boys. Also queer folk and those with more than one X chromosome are either subhuman, or undeserving of life entirely."

Status Quo Joe: "I want more of the neoliberal policies that put America on the top of the world food chain. I don't mind your being exploited for profit, or the third world, but I also don't mind you thinking for yourself and electing different choices which I and my buyers dont like. Climate change is going to fuck you, and Id feel worse if my backers cared, so how about you save that issue for when you have more of your own in power?"

Lemmy Shills: "omg theyre literally the same. Democracy is dead. America is dead and devoid of culture. Anything American media says must be a lie if its positive, or true if its negative."

And round and round we go!!! This shit stopped being possible to tackle on reddit after u started picking up bans everywhere for going against the narrative on what were once leftist spaces. I hope lemmy fairs better. Dont let the newcomers straying in fall for these incendiary tactics.

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