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  • President Zelenskyy warned that Ukraine would lose the war if the US didn't send it more aid.
  • House Republicans have been stalling on a $60 billion aid package for Ukraine.
  • "It is necessary to specifically tell Congress that if Congress does not help Ukraine, Ukraine will lose," he said.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said on Sunday that his country "will lose the war" against Russia if Congress does not act to send it more aid, Agence France-Presse reported.

"It is necessary to specifically tell Congress that if Congress does not help Ukraine, Ukraine will lose the war," he said, per AFP.

For months, House Republicans have stalled on a bill containing $60 billion in aid for Ukraine, stipulating that it should also include increased funding for security at the US southern border.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 8 months ago (7 children)

As an American, it is infuriating and heartbreaking to see these psychotic dipshits in Congress actively working to consign an entire fucking country of 60 million people who WANT to integrate more closely with the US and Europe to being one of Putin’s puppet states.

I sincerely hope the GOP either lets this go through or loses power in the next couple weeks. Both outcomes are actually realistic possibilities at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago (4 children)

We gave the Republicans a version with everyone they asked for, and they still voted against it.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 8 months ago

Republicans never argue in good faith, and bending over backwards to give them what they want just shows them they can demand even worse terms next time.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Republicans are going to cost this country and theirs fucking everything . Whatever happens to Ukraine I hope the GOP receives 10 fold

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (16 children)

It's Zelenskyy's job to say that. But if he doesn't get it he'll be in a tough situation with his troops assuming he tries to backpedal that and encourage them to keep fighting.

I don't understand why Europe isn't more involved in shutting this situation down. It's your goddamn borders at risk if this smoldering fire isn't put out.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Europe CANT do more. They don’t have the military strength due to perpetual underfunding. It’s precisely what every US President since Bill Clinton has been bitching about. The wolf is at the door and they’re every bit as unprepared as has been claimed for the last 30 years.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (5 children)

We've relied too heavily on NATO and the US and it's biting is in the ass right now. A European army would be great in this exact kind of situation. But then everyone in Europe will be "but muh sovereignty", like Europe didn't do in 50 years what people tried to do for centuries, which is preventing us from killing each other.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

We’ve relied too heavily on NATO and the US and it’s biting is in the ass right now.

Europe has a long term problem with it's reliance on the US that I haven't heard discussed. The demographics of the United States are shifting away from people of European background due to immigration from South America and Asia. Over the next 50ish years support from the US will not be a given because so many of the people simply won't have the cultural ties.

Why would masses of people whose backgrounds are from Venezuela, Vietnam, Sudan, or Mexico want to send billions of dollars of military aid, or enter a war, on the European continent?

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[–] ManniSturgis 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yup, we have mostly tried to befriend Russia, even after they took the Crimea. Hell, there are right wing parties who'd love to buy russian gas again even now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

The American GOP is basically 100% pro Russia these days. Which is very concerning.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

As conservatives cheer.

Conservatism is death.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Republicans doing typical Republican things to no one's benefit.

That said, I don't think aid in the form of sending more arms over is right. The proper humanitarian course of action would have been to send a coalition of troops over to Ukraine to forcefully shut the situation down. So many lives would have been saved had we done this earlier.

Instead we have chosen to let the war drag on by sending weapons and supplies, letting both Ukrainians and Russians(many of which who aren't there by choice) slaughter each other.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Sending troops over runs a huge risk of causing the war to spread, bring more, wider-spread suffering. The us would love to do just that, but it comes with such a massive risk which is why they aren't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

The USA sending troops would basically cause WWIII to kick off. No one wants that.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sending in troops would be extremely risky as that would be a direct war between Russia and the west, basically the start for WWIII with Nike's and other fun things.

Edith: nukes, not Nike's

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

basically the start for WWIII with Nike's and other fun things.

"WWIII: Just do it."

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