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[–] [email protected] 188 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

50,000 reviews now. It's a shame, I used to play OW1 a lot even after they stopped providing new content for it. Came to OW2 and I just couldn't be arsed to grind for characters I don't have unlocked. You need to win 35 games, and since there's a basically forced 50% winrate that means you need to play 70 games to unlock a character each time. Wanted to play Ramattra, saw he's locked, uninstalled and didn't look back. The monetization is terrible. The balance feels worse than it's ever been.

This wouldn't be such a problem if they didn't literally SHUT DOWN OVERWATCH 1 to shove people into the cash shop grind sequel

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I know next to nothing about neither Ow1 or OW2, but from the sound of it they turned OW2 into a game focused on grinding, where you can pay to skip (part of) the grind. Is my assessment correct? If so they must've looked at War Thunder and taken that idea.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes. OW1 cost money, but you got all the content. The only paid service was cosmetic outfits for the different characters. You could buy loot boxes for cosmetics. But you had all of the characters, maps, game modes, etc available to begin with. You got the whole game, then could grind for cosmetics.

OW2 takes that and flips it on its head. The game is free, but each character costs money. The problem is that they shut down OW1, so now the players who owned 1 are having to grind for everything. They’ve also had some weird server bugs, with players getting indefinitely locked out of characters they already own.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yep. The gameplay itself has no p2w or grinding in general, but now you have to grind to unlock characters. In OW1 you also used to get showered with cool cosmetics just for playing, in OW2 they turned it into a paid battle pass and a rotating cash shop where a single skin costs like $20 and F2P users get basically nothing. The thing is set up in a way to scam whales by selling them things that used to be free for hundreds of dollars.

I would still play if it were just cosmetics but now every time a hero releases you have to grind to unlock them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's a wonder to me why anyone would ever continue to play overwatch 2. 1 was fun for a time and I played a single match of 2 to realize that they ruined the game and never went back. The game died when 1 was shut down because 2 was never going to be successful with how shit it is.

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Good. They ruined the game. I paid for it and Now I need a battle pass to unlock the 2 champs? Blizzard, eat a sack of shit. Free Hong Kong. Fuck the CCP

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

unlike Baldur's Gate 3, absolutely everything about this game was designed specifically with microtrans in mind

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh my God, you can't just say microtrans. The proper terminology is "gender dysphoric little person"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Actually that's the wrong use of that word in this context. It's actually a "queer questioning point of sale system" he's talking about.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No no no thats also wrong, it stands for micro transmission. Ya know for small vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even you got it wrong! They were talking about the micro figurines for transformers! How you could miss that!!!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

could be short for microtransient, and then we're talking about little hobos.. and who doesn't want to talk about little hobos..

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They've been awful since Activision got involved. I knew that was the end the day the news broke, people told me I was wrong. I wish.

Also they sexually harassed an employee to suicide. That tells you all you need to know.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Blizzard has been on a downward trend for a lot longer than 3 years.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago

As it fucking deserved, honestly.

Fuck Blizzard, shutting down OW1. Pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Good, they absolutely fucking butchered the game just to sell cosmetics and heroes.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

It's currently at 10% positive reviews. I think once this chart updates in ~11.5 hrs, it will officially be the worst-reviewed steam game of all time: https://steam250.com/bottom100

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

blizzard is ass. i hope they go bankrupt one day.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As if there weren't enough money behind Activision-Blizzard, Microsoft is about to buy them. You might as well wish for the oceans to dry up.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23779039/microsoft-activision-blizzard-ftc-trial-win

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really hope MS doesn’t take a laissez faire attitude with Act-Blizz and actually take a real hands on approach. I know they’re not the best at handling things but there has to be some type of change for their studio.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ironically the one thing MS seems to be great at is managing game companies. Granted, that’s by usually just leaving them the hell alone, so yea, im hoping they fire all the higher ups at activision and hand it to one of their other game companies

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which companies have they been great at managing?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I may have made my point badly, they are great at managing their gaming properties by not managing them. They usually just buy the company and let the people that made the game studio great keep doing what they do.

As opposed to someone like EA which takes the studio down to a BDSM basement and violates them like they are in a snuff film

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[–] altima_neo 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

From a shit company.

They earned their reputation pretty hard

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They probably had it coming.

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