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[-] [email protected] 190 points 3 months ago

Let them not be forgotten

This is a large album of images from the protests in Beijing in 1989. It gives the historical context for the events leading up to the "tank man" photo, and what happened after.

Warning: blood, gore, visible injuries, death

[-] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

I uploaded this pictures in my old Xiaomi cloud account. It took almost 100 MB out of 5 GB free space. Other 4.9 GB is taken by Winnie the Pooh pictures and memes about Xi.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

I'll never understand how the tankies can claim it never happened when there's so many pictures like this available.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even Lemmygrad says there were 300 deaths. I really can't find anyone saying it straight up didn't happen, not even the CPC itself. The closest is saying that the massacre happened outside the square, which seems more of a technicality that both "sides" rely on to pretend the other is making stuff up. Ie, Lemmygrad claiming others know nothing because there was no massacre on the square itself and it all happened outside, while others see that as outright denial.

Lemmygrad also believes it was CIA-backed and turned a pro-Maoist, anti-Dengist protest into an anti-Maoist, anti-Dengist, pro-Liberal Democracy/Capitalist protest, which I would say ultimately doesn't change that protestors were murdered even if that was true.

I think it's helpful to see what people are actually saying, you can better argue it to be an atrocity that way. For example, as above, even if it was steered in a different direction by western forces, it still had popular support and as such was still an unjust escalation of force into massacre.

The massacre is undeniable.

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[-] [email protected] 143 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thanks for sharing. Every time I see a picture of the Tiananmen Square massacre I get shivers. That man is one of the most amazing icons of resistance against oppression. I like to think of myself as brave but I'm genuinely skeptical if I'd have the courage to stand in front of a tank that way.

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[-] [email protected] 117 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thanks for this. China keeps trying to wipe away this event by having any image deleted. It needs to be reposted and seen often.

[-] [email protected] 73 points 3 months ago

There are diplomatic cables from Australia and Britain about the massacre that have been declassified. Shit was fucked and I don't know if the cables are common knowledge. That article is a great read.

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Ya know I dont know if thats legit NSFL or if im just that desensitized to war photos. Maybe giving 12 year old me a book on the civil war that included post battle photos and sections from a contemporary medical book with photos from the mangled corpses wasnt the wisest move by my grandmother. But ya know what those photos do invoke within me absolute fucken rage.

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago

Damn malicious AI image generators trying to tarnish the good name of the CCP. Smh. (/s)

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's pretty amazing how they let that guy just harass a tank for several minutes and even climb on it, then just kinda let him be led away by bystanders.

For some reason growing up I think everyone assumed he got ran over or killed?

https://youtu.be/qq8zFLIftGk

[-] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago

For some reason growing up I think everyone assumed he got ran over or killed?

Because hundreds if not thousands of others were (others have already linked the graphic content).

Also, seeing him being led away in this footage is zero evidence that he survived his protest (unsurprisingly, there is no documentation of him or what the government did to him, but considering what they did to others like him, there is very little room to doubt that he didn't make it).

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

This man is a fucking hero and deserves to be recognized as such.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

This was the photo in my local newspaper when it happened. Source: local paper boy. (Was greyscale)

[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

I've seen lots of pictures of Hong Kong protests, and hear about rent protests in Beijing, but haven't seen many photos like this in Beijing proper in the 21st century. Are they that good at scrubbing the web, or did I just miss them?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

China's internet is isolated from the rest of the world. We would be looking at a lot of content created from china if it wasn't like that.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Tiananmen Square protest and massacre happened in 1989.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

You never visited the Wikipedia page before?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The wikipedia page doesn't have any version of this image. Regardless, the most shared images are closer up and from the ground, showing about 5 tanks, not this version with 50 tanks. The image of him sitting in front of a few tanks was the most widely used I believe.

This is common

So is this

If I remember correctly, the version OP posted was newly found/released only a few years ago. E: this is what I was thinking of.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Isn't this the classic photo?

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