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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm going to be honest here. If you live in a poor country, sure go ahead and bypass the paywall. But if you can afford it buy the subscription. Real journalism actually takes time and money. Because otherwise news sites depend on ad revenue which then results in click bait journalism. There is no third option. Journalism, much like anything else, is not free.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What if, and this may be shocking to some, but what if you live in a rich country and you're dirt poor?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you… by chance- pick yourself up by then?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. I was chewing my avocado toast.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That model works great if you tend to get your news primarily from one news source. If you don't, then that's a lot of subscriptions, and especially if you want to go look at a local news article that got linked somewhere for a town you don't even live in. Most of the time I don't even want to register an account, let alone set up a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There used to be aggregate subscriptions where you would get multiple participating websites under one payment, and then it would distribute the money based on your actual views. Kinda like Spotify for news.

It always seems to fall apart after a while, with websites just opting for their own individual systems (I guess they get more money that way?).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've never come across a single paywalled news site that was worth subscribing to. Pretty much 100% of the paywalled content I've ever come across were all some random links I found via Google or Reddit (and now Lemmy). It wasn't like I was particularly trying to visit that site and read all of their articles or something. Also, just so we're clear, I'm not saying that I don't to pay/donate/subscribe to stuff - I subscribe to Spotify because I use it daily and it's worth it, I subscribe to Sync because I use it daily and it's worth it etc.

But most of these paywalled news sites (or some random scientific paper published on some random science journal) isn't something that I'm really interested in pursuing a subscription for, just because I stumbled upon some random link out of curiosity - so if they think that I'll subscribe just because of one random article... that's just shitty business.

Ideally, they should just let me view that random article for free and set a cookie (could be server-side) and say "hey, your IP address has viewed three articles on this site already, so we think you like our stuff so, you should really consider subscribing if you want to read more content!". I mean, that makes sense. I'd then go, "yep, this site has quality content and the type of content I'd like to read, so it's worth subscribing to".

But no, instead they're like "heeey random visitor, you just stumbled upon this random link and hey guess what, you need an entire subscription just to read one ducking article! Of course, asking you to pay for a whole month's worth of subscription makes total sense, and isn't going to put you off, right?"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

My hot take is that we need more journalists on the NPR / local affiliate model. People should pledge to their local journalists, no news hidden behind subscriptions. Pay what you can, subscribers get early access to the entertainment / pop culture content, and don’t get blasted with pledge requests.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disabling JavaScript seems to work in most cases. Not sure why that isn't listed higher up on here

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s my go-to technique. But I would prefer that Lifehacker was not publicizing it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sure most are already aware of it, but to get around it they'd have to lock part of the article behind a "load more" button that requires JS (or even just auto-load it via JS without a button), which I have seen some do.

There must be a reason it's not done universally though. Maybe because it'd break archives? Not sure

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

My assumption is that they want the content to load initially so search engines can index it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

From my observation the “load more” type of wall is more prevalent for scientific journals than the typical news sites. Not sure why.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox desktop mode, hit the reader icon next to the url. no paywall

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much for telling us this!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, 12ft.io isn't nearly as effective as it used to be, likely because sites have become wise to it and tweaked their methods

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, the sites just tell 12ft.oi to blacklist them and they do, there aren't any wise tricks. We can only speculate whether 12ft.io is taking payments or are just afraid of getting sued.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is there a firefox add-on for mobile that blocka those annoying cookie popups and also bypasses paywall?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recently discovered that the Firefox add-on, ublock origin, has in its chooseable block lists, under annoyances, a cookie notice blocker with lots of other annoyance blockers as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you please share the steps on how to configure ublock ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Navigate to the uBlock Origin settings. · Select the "Filter lists" tab. · Scroll to the "Annoyances" section. Place a check mark next to "AdGuard/uBO – Cookie Notices".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks. You're a LEGEND!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can usually get past a lot of that stuff by just using the reader mode (button in the address bar)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Consent-O-Matic for cookie pop-ups

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The Ghostery extension supports auto-declining the cookie prompts.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m thankful MS Edge allows JavaScript disabling at the site level. I have several sites disabled and it works fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

every browser allows this

+ublock origin would let you do this

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The message a paywalled article tells me is: I know I'll benefit immensely and the article is a must-read, or they'll tell me not to be interested in the outlet. Almost all the time it's the latter. Yes, I currently subscribe to one (print) news source.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see a paywall and I just leave and move onto the next thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yep. I also block that source from future feeds if I can.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you have a subscription to Apple News, you can use the Share > News.app feature to open most paywalled major news outlets. And the outlet gets paid.

I don’t have an Android device, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it has something similar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Use a terminal browser like w3m or lynx.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
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