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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Im glad people are calling out drake for being a sexual predator but I dont trust all the rappers he be beefing with. Like some of them are doing it just for clout and are using it as a chance to get back at drake for personal reasons and would have never spoke up about drake dating teenagers if drake hadnt become persona non grata in the last few days. Its like harvey weinstein. People in hollywood knew for years there was rumors people spoke up and lost their jobs but it wasnt until he was done thats when everyone came out with shit on him. Like everyone who knew he was a predator before this and worked with him then and became angry at him not for the predator shit needs to go too!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah Rick Ross has beef with Drake but dude had a line about slipping molly in a woman's champagne lol. And yeah it doesn't seem like Kendrick was the one who spearheaded this - it was Metro Boomin and Future, and Future is a piece of shit deadbeat, but Kendrick doesn't seem to care too much about that.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Counter point, the Drake-Kendrick beef will be forgotten in like two months and nothing major will change because of it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but it’s pretty good slop

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some of the best lines I've heard in years is coming out of this feud. Of course, almost all of it is coming from Kendrick's side, but still, you need two to tango.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

even Bret Hart wrestled jobbers from time to time

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

IDK, this guy is kinda reaching. I could see where he's coming from if he was saying this beef and the things Kendrick is talking about reflect larger societal issues, but how could they possibly be shaping them? Pop culture, and all of the superstructure, arise out of the material base but has extremely little power to do anything except reinforce it. That's why Kendrick and other conscious artists limit the scope of their message to a very specific part of the struggle, which elements of the ruling class are already ready to recuperate and make concessions in (more Black billionaires! (which is not what Kendrick is asking for but it's definitely the safe, capitalist response to this tide of conscious hip hop (and it's what other artists like Jay Z put forward as their solution) and even the most radical artists don't want to bite the hand that feeds them)). Even then, I don't want to be too cynical as to obscure what some smaller rappers out there are doing, others like Noname have put forward a more materialist criticism and have been outspoken about genocide and imperialism. How much of a difference does that make? Probably quite a lot, I'm sure many of the people in campus protests right now can attribute part of their political development to pop culture. But is it the actual, deciding factor for the movement and progression of history? marx-goth

Ultimately the amount of change these artists can enact is limited due to their positions relying on capital; streaming platforms and record companies aren't gonna keep Fred Hampton on board for too long if that's really bringing about political action that threatens their bottom line.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Normani

Did you mean Noname?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Of course pop culture doesn't change anything. After Weinstein got arrested we never got many updates about whether similar abuses have seized, and I assume not because nothing systemic was changed. Epstein dies, Maxwell goes to prison, nothing changes. Drake has an absurdly large contract with many brands - it's unlikely to do anything unless Kendrick has some scathing, undeniable evidence that compels the police to go after Drake - but I doubt that would happen because it might self-incriminate Kendrick for various reasons, and doing it "officially" (i.e. working directly with the cops) is career suicide for Kendrick, so he basically only has vague jabs and perhaps inadmissible exposes

I'm sure many of the people in campus protests right now can attribute part of their political development to pop culture.

I would not trust many people who can be swayed by products lol

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

tiktoks should be banned so we can be free of the moronic editing technique of separately splicing together every single clause a presenter speaks.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

are you talking about jump cuts, because that's been a problem in youtube videos since the early 10s, and it was way worse then (it might even still be worse now)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah, not jump cuts, look at how the video cuts in the middle of the sentence which leads to a pretty jarring viewing experience if you're not used to it. He sometimes cuts 2 or 3 times in just one sentence, super disorienting.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Tired of hearing vout this and not actually hearing the songs, I went to look up Kendrick Lamar expecting to hate it because I'm old and all rap sounds like shit to me these days.

And... This kinda hits. This Lamar kid's got somethin.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

the most critically acclaimed rapper of his generation has something

amazing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

The most critically acclaimed rapper of a wack generation

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just because “mainstream” rap isn’t good doesn’t mean people haven’t constantly been releasing quality stuff.

Also, Kendrick is pushing 40 and has been putting out music for 2 decades, so he’s not exactly a part of the younger generation of rappers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That's certainly in his favor. I called him kid because he's about 10 years younger than me and I was being cute

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i can't tell the difference between a guy self-consciously doing conscious jazz rap, who deliberately positions himself as stylistic through-line to the 90s and puts himself in literal conversation with hiphop greats, and his "wack" contemporaries

why pretend to be an old head -- you can just say you've never, once, listened to hip hop lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I like what I've heard of Lamar so far. I like that stuff that sets him apart. It's many of his contemporaries I don't like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i mean he’s been mainstream for 14 years now i think we’re well into a new generation after his

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which one did you hear? Not Like Us is a pretty standard trap beat with some more lyrical complexity than usual, but it's really nothing out of left field musically. It sounds like a pretty average trap song. The other 2 are a little more involved, but again nothing too crazy since these songs were made on a tight schedule. If this is really your first introduction to Kendrick I highly recommend you do yourself a favor and listen to To Pimp a Butterfly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I may have already heard To Pimp a Butterfly? Not sure. But I will.

But the fact that these were in a subgenre I usually hate is what surprised me here.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

IMO trap music is always unfairly maligned in mainstream discussions outside of the hip hop sphere (i.e. in predominantly white spaces). It's a broad genre, there's some low brow trap music, then there's your Earl Sweatshirts, Jpegmafias, Uzis, etc. who take the genre and do some very interesting things with it. Kendrick has been known to freely take a lot of influence from different subgenres and he definitely also shows that the attitude that a lot of people, especially oldheads, took toward "mumble rap," was super shortsighted. It's like dismissing randomness in video games because slot machines exist.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

You think the Bay gon' let you disrespect ‘Pac, n*

I think that Oakland show gon' be your last stop, n*

lathe-of-heaven

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I used to just hate Drake cause I'm Canadian. Now I kinda like Kendrick Lamar for owning a dude so hard I has to see what the fuss was about. Now I have other reasons, as stenchcore scum who pays little attention to mainstream music, Kendrick goty clicks and I told co-workers about it. He was like if you made Narduar really mad at you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

mfw Nardwuar is the mole/Kendrick's investigator quagsire-pog

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

ITT: hexbear being extremely anti-cracker-aktion lmao

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I feel like if you're writing mean songs about how much you hate someone you've already lost. Why doesn't the diss-ee simply make a wojak-nooo meme of them and be done?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

It doesn't work if you don't walk away after that, then you become the wojak-nooo

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

Rappers sending each other PPB over and over

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't know who these people are

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

uh, more like zoomers not following unc beef.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

sure, but it's not because he's a boomer

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you legitimately not know the Hotline Bling guy?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The what now?

No like seriously, I know Drake is some sort of rapper or whatever I don't know, the other guy I heard of him once. It must be because these people don't really reach Argentina at all lol. I'm being 200% honest.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's fair enough, but I'm not American either and Drake is very frequently on the radio here (also a Spanish speaking place). I'm surprised there's anywhere in the world where the people who are online enough to be here haven't heard Hotline Bling.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Then be very surprised because that song isn't really popular everywhere

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

You didn't watch Degrassi!??!

/s neither did I

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

FD Signifier talked about this way more in depth on his Drake hate video from a couple years ago. He talks about the branch Drake came from and how Drake is the inevitable conclusion once capitalist forces began working their way into hip hop. It's a really good video for anyone interested in the topic/has 3 hours to kill.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago
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