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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 months ago

RIP Spitz. It was a ballsy move encouraging users to leave negative reviews in order to make our voices heard. Gotta respect it.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck it the negative review stays because of firing him.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Don't do it for him, he was by far the worst CM I've ever seen. He was acting like a Reddit mod, he would hand out bans without any reasoning, would get into arguments with the players and was just overall antagonistic and apathetic towards the community. People would literally meme that Spitz is the Gollum and Twinbeard (who is actually a pretty good CM) is Samwise. Even his initial response to the PSN fiasco was along the lines of "It's not the first game to require a third party account. If you can't be bothered to make one then don't complain here, go leave a negative review on Steam" and he kept antagonizing the community for quite a while before doing a 180 to side with the community. And while that was a good thing from the community perspective I don't think that one example excuses all the prior shit he's done.

The comment he gave for the article (and the overall tone of the article itself) is just trying to whitewash the fact that he was a shit CM who deserved to be fired even before rallying people to ask for a refund.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I'm glad he did what he did, but holy hell is he bad at being a CM.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I heard a lot of people in the community calling for Spitz’ firing both during and after the situation. I’m getting mixed signals, since this article seems to describe Spitz as more of an ally to the community in the situation.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 3 months ago

Spitz fucked up initially with a few poor responses, but ended up being one of the most important players in getting the PSN requirements removed. For somebody employed by the studio to tell their community to refund the game was not only ballsy, but likely was a major reason Sony walked back the policy at all.

Spitz had a whole-ass redemption arc play out in 24 hours.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For the first 12 hours after the incident Spitz was unhelpful. Saying things that were both a little bit toxic, a little bit dismissive.. The next day however he did a full 360, was being helpful, understood people's viewpoints, acknowledge that his first day response wasn't correct. He basically humanized himself. A redemption arc in 3 days

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

a full 360

I'm not sure if that's a joke, but I can't help but point out that 360° is one complete rotation, which would have Spitz facing the same direction he began...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

HE-HE did a 360 AAOOWWW SCH'MONA

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

It's not about the destination, but the journey.
It was a full redemption-circle

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He regularly was combative and derided community members. Which was like, the opposite of his job.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago

The person being fired should be the dumbass who caused this whole mess from Sony's side.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Or it could be because of the flippant and condescending way they responded to the initial change and complaints. End of the day could be a lot of things but encouraging negative review probably didn't help things.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Not everyone makes it to evac.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Really amusing seeing how many people are ready to pour one out for the fired CM just because he was fired, and don't realize how friggin awful he was as a community manager. I bet y'all think Darth Vader was a good guy just because he did one last good thing before he died, too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Was he a bad CM? I almost got myself fired from my previous game dev gig standing up for the players. Sometimes upper management pisses you off that much

Edit: looks like he was a bad CM

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

For democracy!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Back to bad reviews i guess.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

But not the one falsely accusing people of being serial rapists?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Does he have a donation link? I think some people in the community would like to help him have a soft landing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

so this game will be on a fast track to a decent discount soon would be my guess

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Uhhhh far as I can tell that's not why. And it hasn't been stated why. But my guess is because he was because he was terrible at his job. Telling users to basically stop being babies about the PSN thing. And that wasn't the first time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Takes a lot of ..something.. to roll into a a thread already with answers and give the by far worst one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Except...all the other answer when I got here were making all sorts of baseless accusations.