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[–] [email protected] 81 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Once again conservative Terrorism wins.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

have some pride

[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago

I'm sure glad conservatives believe in the free market and wouldn't do things like harass people or destroy displays in Target.

[–] TxzK 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We support LGBTQ+ rights*

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

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Can I offer you a forward slash in these trying times?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Look, this might be a controversial take, but I don't think Target ever gave a shit about Pride Month, but there were a lot of people who WERE about it so they hyped it and wanted to sell to those people.

It's like the Superbowl. Does grocery stores give a shit about the Superbowl and who is playing? No, but they'll stock up on themed shit and make displays and hype it up because it makes money to sell to the people who DO care about it.

Getting mad that Target carries Pride Month stuff is as ridiculous at getting mad that a grocery store is carrying Superbowl stuff when you don't like football. Who gives a shit? Don't buy it.

Getting mad that Target doesn't carry Pride stuff in heavily conservative areas is like getting mad at a grocery store in the UK for not having a big Superbowl display. They don't have enough people into that, so why would they promote it there?

Does Target have good (or at least not bad) policies regarding LGBTQ+ employees? Do they support LGBTQ+ groups? That's what matters.

If Pride stuff doesn't sell in hyper-conservative areas, it makes no sense to offer them there. That isn't a reflection on LGBTQ+ pride or a position taken about it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, except that even in the swamp gay people live (or kids haven't moved away yet) and it feels nice for a change that their existence is simply appreciated instead of fought against, even if it is rainbow capitalism 101.

[–] AdmiralRob 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, but the LGBTQ people in those areas probably wouldn't buy that stuff either for fear of being outed and ostracized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I agree with the part about big corporations not actually caring about it, and that both the decision to stock and the decision not to stock are made cynically by a company like Target.

What I don’t agree with is that getting mad about not having Pride stuff is equivalent to getting mad about not having Super Bowl stuff. Football fans are not an oppressed segment of society that has feared harassment and violence. There is not a constant threat of legislation aimed at harming their community. It’s also not important that football fandom is normalized by society at large.

So even if we were talking about the Super Bowl, if 5-10% of people in the UK actually were American football fans, and were under constant threat by UK society, then it would be completely understandable to get mad at Target for being cynical about even that! Indeed, I guarantee in those places where Target isn’t carrying pride stuff, there are LGBTQ+ people living there.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is some Bud light backtracking energy here

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If Books Could Kill did a fantastic podcast episode a while back that dove into how completely fucking stupid the 2023 backlash to Target and Bud Light both were and how mainstream media really helped them along by refusing to report it with any depth or detail

You should be able to find it here next to the title "BONUS: Conservatives vs. Pride Month" - https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2040953.rss

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

"mainstream media really helped them along by refusing to report it with any depth or detail"

That's mainstream media in a nutshell. They don't want to dig into the "why" so they can appear unbiased. And it always helps Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Quiet Pride isn't Pride - Pride is loud.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Seems like target is caving to terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Me to Target: Ah, so you're a bitch

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

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Were they going to stock it in all stores to begin with?

Like, I assume that they don't just use a fixed strategy to stock stores across the country. Even aside from regional fashion preferences, you've got varying climate as an input. Part of what they do as a retailer is gonna be recording what people buy and making optimal use of advertising and stocking space to sell to people, and in a computer era, I'd think that they'd be doing that at a more-fine-grained level than nationwide.

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It looks like Target pulled Confederate flag gear from their stores in the past too. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that they probably weren't selling them in, say, their San Francisco locations, even prior to that. Similarly, I'm also guessing that they probably aren't selling "pridewear" in rural Mississippi or whatnot. That isn't even to deal with people getting grouchy about it being there...just that those items aren't gonna sell well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

The fact that target sells Confederate gear at all is problematic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

The confederate flag is just as bad as a swastika. It should not be tolerated at all no matter what backward hick shit hole the store happens to be in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Probably more an issue of sales revenue vs politics. Target doesn’t really care.