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Firefox’s Enhanced Tracking Protection (Strict Mode) is known to cause issues on x.com

There were no "issues"; everything was working completely fine. This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.

I saw a recommendation to use Firefox's container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it's disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.

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[–] [email protected] 416 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Stop using twitter for f*cks sake

[–] [email protected] 171 points 6 months ago (24 children)

This is the internet; you can say “fuck” here.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Sir this is a Wendys, go rant somewhere else for fucks sake

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Excuse me, I'm going to have to ask you not to curse here.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It really baffles me how often I still see it talked about. Especially on Lemmy. I never liked it myself but now the musk owns it, I would've assumed there wouldn't be much controversy here: it's dead and gone, move on, people.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Problem is it isn’t gone and it’s still helping foment huge political/social issues in the US. It impacts us whether we want it to or not.

Doesn’t mean I use it. I don’t. But it negatively impacts my life all the same.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Ah yes politics, the thing that can be discussed in 140 characters or less. Twitter is definitely the prime place for this discourse.

I get what you’re saying, I really do, I just think its super fucked up that our politicians have collectively decided this is THE place to engage people when there is no political topic that could possibly be discussed properly this way. I’m pretty sure I already exceeded the limit just saying this.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (9 children)

I made accounts on Mastodon and Blue Sky but most people still use Twitter, so if there's info you're looking for, or if you want to share things, you're forced to use what most people are using.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I deleted my 2007-era Twitter account in 2022 and not once have I felt like I was missing out on any “info” or felt like I wasn’t able to share things.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Thats cool but it is a transitional thing. If you keep going back the transition doesn’t happen. Stand your ground.

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[–] [email protected] 295 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which means that Firefox works properly on that aspect. Good.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is protecting you from malware

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

didn't work; elon musk still breathes.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The real question is why people are still using that dumpster fire of a website.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

To answer your question, it's inertia. People need to be forced of Twitter if before they join Mastodon/Bluesky/Threads

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 6 months ago (8 children)

i have no idea why people who are concerned about privacy would use anything associated with elon musk.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The Gods forbid I try to literally read something

The real question is why people keep using Twitter despite how impossible it is to even visit the website

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.

No this is a hilarious fuckup where they forgot to move twitter.com, pbs.twimg.com and more off of the Twitter domains, so Firefox started blocking it because to Firefox it looks like Social Media trackers.

Mozilla already pushed a fix.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why would anybody test that first in QA anyway?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Every software project, without exception, has a testing environment.

Some even have a separate production environment too.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 months ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I think it is called the network effect. People are still using Twitter because the messages they want to see are being posted there, and those messages are being posted there because that's where the audience is. So, basically, people are locked in.

This also means that any loss in user count has a double effect, as not only users are lost, but the utility of the service for the remaining users decreases. So, what I'm saying is, if Elon continues this way, at some point there will be a large exodus of users from Twitter, as each loss of users reduces the utility of Twitter further, triggering a chain reaction.

Of course, we can't know when that happens, and since we're both on Lemmy, we've already self-selected as people with little tolerance for enshittification.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The question is, why there still people using this shit ?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People are still using that shit because other people they want to interact with are still using that shit. Network effects are hard to break.

I occasionally use it to complain at corporations, mostly when their websites show me captchas but occasionally for other customer service issues.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Depending on the research subject, people built networks on Twitter. It's hard to move on another platform as you will loose your network.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Same reasons why people still use Facebook - too many folks who think it's still a good thing.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The thing people miss when they boast "wElL I DoNT uSe iT sO nOt mY pRoBlEm" is that an increasingly large proportion of our society does use these shit platforms, and for longer periods too. We have to live in this world with all the brainrotted zombies so it is actually our problem too.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

God I can't wait for that website to die already

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I feel like people will still be saying this in ten years (sadly)

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seems to me like a good reason to disable x.com

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (4 children)

How might we help and encourage people to leave Twitter?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Highkey though I kind of don't want to help people leave Twitter to go to Lemmy. While the increase in posts would be great, the kind of toxicity and general culture that follows can most definitely ruin a website.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago

Why even use twitter in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago

issue detected: we are having trouble collecting enough personal info

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Every time someone writes x.com I immediately think they're talking about a porn site. What a shit rebrand. Or what a perfect name I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We're getting closer and closer to the complete destruction of this worthless shithole, keep it up elon!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

Looks like they're in A/B testing right now. You can have maximal impact by avoiding using twitter on those devices for the next few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I have an app called TrackerControl. It blocks a ton of shit. Here is one rule of thumb I have, if a website breaks because of this app, I'm not going to it. I don't need it. I can live without it. So many apps work no problem. The ones who don't, they want to fingerprint and track me.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just block Twitter. Why does anyone use it anymore?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (4 children)

saying they're forcing you to disable tracking protection is giving them too much credit.

they basically just botched the switchover from one domain to another and forgot about extra tracking domains etc so firefox flagged it as coming from a different domain.

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[–] possiblylinux127 22 points 6 months ago

Forcing you

They can't make you

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I saw a recommendation to use Firefox's container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it's disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.

Then just... enable the containers in private tabs? The option is right there in the extensions menu.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just assumed this is because they fired all their experienced people and they don’t know how to host their website, so you’ve got junk coming from all sorts of domains in their attempt to patch something together that works.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Twitter is garbage in every way - techonology, content, userbase. Not worth using.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Glad I don't use Xitter.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

This is a feature, not a bug. It's designed to wean you off using twitter.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Twitter forcing me to stop using Twitter is an incredible galaxy brain suicide maneuver. I can't wait to see it explode spectacularly in a blaze of stupid right in elon's face

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