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Not a Number (jemmy.jeena.net)
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Good price.

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[-] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago

You ever have one of those moments when you just put 2 and 2 together, and also that you should have had that realization many years ago?

I just realized what NaN stands for...

This must be what people who get told "you can just wait for the shower water to warm up before hopping in" feel like.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The elephant and rope parable rings its bell of sound morals!

Not so much the realizing what NaN means; that's more relevant to that XKCD which I probably don't need to describe here.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

"That makes it free, right?"

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Not only that, it makes your entire purchase free due to NaN arithmetic.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

But as you mention, NaN propagates.
So at checkout, your wallet will become NaN, as the shops money balance. Then it will spread to your bank account and before you realize what happens the whole banking-district is in flames.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

no, it costs NaN, now remove NaN from your account...

...oh no

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Technically it has a pricetag, so...

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

0*(NaN)... So does that mean the price IS a number?

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Isn't any math operation involving NaNs also a NaN? At least that's my gut feeling.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Based on my frequent exploding and vanishing gradients, that would be a yes.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Thanks, relevant username!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Good point.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I suppressed most of my former js knowledge but I guess it's a string now.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

In JS, it's just NaN if my browser's console is to be believed. I suspected it would probably be {object} for no clear reason

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

for no clear reason

JS That's the reason. The language has an awful type system.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I think its type system is "okay", I mean inherently dynamic typing is pretty error-prone. But its type coercion algorithms are bonkers. Also that whole "NaN ≠ NaN" business...

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Also that whole "NaN ≠ NaN" business...

See that's one of the parts that is actually almost in line with other languages. In Go, for example, nil ≠ nil because nil is, by definition, undefined. You can't say whether one thing that you know nothing about is at all like something else that you know nothing about. It really should raise an exception at the attempt to compare NaN though.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If 0/0 is NaN, then does that mean 0*NaN = 0*0/0 = 0?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

0*NaN = NaN

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

dirty onanists spilling their seed

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Lennin died, with him died lenninism. Stalin died, with him died stalinism. Grandpa Onan, don't die!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

What is spilled cannot die

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In my language, onanování is masturbating. And onan is a mild insult insinuating that someone wanks a lot.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It's onanism in English. And it's rather stupid to call it that because Onan didn't masturbate, he used the pull out method to avoid getting his sister-in-law pregnant with his brother's kid. (yes, I know that sounds weird but that's the story)

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I figure it is called that because both the pull-out method and masturbation for penis-havers involves spilling your seed somewhere outside of a woman's womb.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, from a superficial viewpoint they are similar. And from a superficial viewpoint shooting a practice target is similar to shooting a person dead. It would be rather stupid to refer to target practice as murder.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I get your point, but considering that we got the word "Onanism" from the Bible I was thinking about some Christian denominations' views of why God wasn't happy with Onan in the Bible: because he ejaculated without trying to procreate. That is why I thought it was relevant to tie those two things together like that.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Onan's crime was greed not lust. He did not want to provide for Tamar or her potential children.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

According to Wikipedia, Biblical scholars essentially agree with you, to the point

Bible scholars even maintain that the Bible does not claim that masturbation would be sinful.

which is pretty cool especially given my prior belief that most people agreed it was about lust. Wikipedia does also say that some Christian denominations have interpreted the sin to be as lust, though.

And Catholicism, at least, still doesn't like the ejaculation without procreation:

Since, therefore, the conjugal act is destined primarily by nature for the begetting of children, those who in exercising it deliberately frustrate its natural power and purpose sin against nature and commit a deed which is shameful and intrinsically vicious.

Small wonder, therefore, if Holy Writ bears witness that the Divine Majesty regards with greatest detestation this horrible crime and at times has punished it with death. As St. Augustine notes, "Intercourse even with one's legitimate wife is unlawful and wicked where the conception of the offspring is prevented. Onan, the son of Juda, did this and the Lord killed him for it."

(number 54 and 55 in a Pope Pius XI encyclical)

(I never thought I'd be discussing religion on programming.dev lol)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not the same thing, I'm pretty sure something like that is in almost any language, but here it's the official word for male masturbation, not some niche word that's not really used much.

I know the story and you're right, it's pretty dumb how it's used.

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Onanizál in Hungarian.

Central European gang rise up!

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...spilled his arithmetic overflow on the ground.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I like how the code adds a 0 at the start.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

The code probably checks if the following number is greater than 10 (which fails for NaN) and otherwise adds a 0 in front.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It's priceless

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cost = "arm" + "leg";

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

lidl quality

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ooo na na...

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