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[–] [email protected] 140 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Civil disobedience? Well don't mind if I do.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Civil Disobedience is the opposite of this.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago

Uncivil Disobedience

[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok ok. Civil disobedience, but with bricks

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, this is just rioting. That's not to say rioting is bad, it got redlining and segregated neighborhoods banned, and is an important part of peaceful demonstrations, as it shows what the consequences will be if they don't give into your demands.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No. It's not "just rioting". Try that again without the value judgment.

We see this type of hidden judgement on a regular basis. The key words are "just" and "only". It's an annoyingly effective rhetorical device, because the statement looks like an objective description of things when it's not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What hidden value judgement? I pointed out that rioting or other violent action, or at least the credible threat of, is necessary for any progress.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're both right.

Often, descriptors like simply, only, just, etc. are used to diminish or manage perceptions of dissent.

However, saying 'no it's just a riot' in this case is merely accurate grammar, as it's applying needed nuance and limits to the definition of civil disobedience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

As you pointed out, this is partly a matter of interpretation. So opinions could reasonably vary, and I respect that.

I believe it's clear enough that in this case, saying that the situation is just a riot, is a way of taking focus away from the other things that were happening. Perhaps it wasn't a riot and then turned into one, and maybe we should be focusing on what happened first. Or perhaps there was a riot happening along with something else, and that second thing is worth mentioning.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

For anyone wondering:

civil disobedience, the refusal to obey the demands or commands of a government or occupying power, without resorting to violence or active measures of opposition

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bricks

Civil

Who doesnt like a bit of Orkposting

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Man, I miss the ork communities

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

START 'UN, INVITE SOME BOYZ, AND GET ORKPOSTIN!!!

[–] [email protected] 104 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Well it would be impolite to say no. ACAB

[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago

cops and bricks, a match made in heaven

[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago

Always the right response

[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago

The force of habit

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago

When in Rome

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

what was his crime? eating a meal? a succulent chinese meal?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

You know your judo well!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He was also loosely the inspiration for the titular character in Inside Llewelyn Davis iirc

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Inside Llewyn Davis is one of my favorite movies for how it essentially deals with depression, but Dave van Ronk being an ally even if just in throwing bricks makes it even better imo

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

A true ally

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Goes to show that he doesn't sing about personal experiences in Luang Prabang, because that takes balls

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I honestly thought I was the only person who knew about that song.

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