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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hope this is down to them needing to have this ready weeks ago and not knowing when the election would be.

As slogans go it's about as inspiring as Starmer himself.

Generic, non-commital and subject to change.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

True, very different vibes!

Tories have been nothing but changeable in recent years and that's not been a good thing!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Labour are sort of arguing for a change to a stable government which is the most ambitious bit of political messaging I could possibly think of.

Time will tell if sunak and the Tories are so hopeless it actually works

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Fair point well made. I guess we'll see how this particular campaign is received.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It just describes what he plans on saying he's doing if elected, it'll Change every other day.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'll take a pragmatic responsive PM over the lurching idealogues of recent years

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well said. While he's not perfect, I'd imagine Starmer will be significantly different to the Tories.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

The fact that he won't be distracted by right wing extremists in his own party is a good start.

Within the labour party he is the right wing extremist.

And I don't think he's likely to be too damaged by attacks on the left much either, certainly not until after the honeymoon period.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So when Tories go back on promises it's lying but when labour do it its reasonable pragmatism?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did I say all those things?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe I misunderstood but that seemed to be what you were suggesting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Labour seems to be shifting further and further Right, not sure how much better they'll be than the Tories. But for what it's worth, I totally agree.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Makes sense since somewhere between two thirds and three quarters of voters think it's time for a change of government!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Change from blue right wing wankers to red right wing wankers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Come on man. When a party of wankers is forcing you to take it in the arse.

Variety seems like the least you can expect right.

Well that and the party actually letting you vote for the member used. Blue tories really have not done that for 3 inserted members.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you not think that an oversimplification?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Starmer has dropped every left wing pledge, purged every progressive and has bent over backwards to appeal to vested interests.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To such a degree that they're worse than the Conservatives?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say they were worse. They haven't been in power so how could they be?

But Starmer is offering nothing new. Same austerity, same corporate control of industry and political influence, same authoritarian proclivities and pandering to neoliberals and mass murderers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Apologies, I didn't mean to say that you meant that, I'm asking the question, would that make them worse?

As they haven't been in power, we can't see what they'll actually offer until they're in power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The word was emblazoned on the lectern as Keir Starmer responded to Rishi Sunak’s rain-soaked speech on Wednesday and, lest there were any doubts about Labour’s key campaign message, he said it eight times in his brief address.

A one-word slogan has the merit of being simple and clear – and Labour believes that “Change” will chime with the public’s widespread sense of exasperation at the state of the country.

Starmer pressed home the promise of change in his launch speech on Thursday, urging disillusioned voters to “turn the page” and “end the chaos”.

By contrast, Theresa May appeared to offer continuity in 2017 with her campaign slogan promising “Strong and stable leadership”, despite the country having backed the change option in the EU referendum 12 months earlier.

Just as Sunak’s repeated insistence that he has a plan jarred somewhat with his increasingly sodden shoulders on Wednesday, May’s promise of strength and stability sat uncomfortably alongside a panicked mid-campaign U-turn on social care.

But if the party’s poll lead is anything to go by, as the campaign gears up in the coming days, Starmer’s cry of “Change” should fit neatly with the mood of an exasperated nation.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I think he stole that from a US presidential candidate!

Oh wait… Sorry, no.

That was Andrew CHANG.