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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Give the crested geckos their independence! (My only knowledge of New Caledonia is gecko-based).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just so we're clear who says they should be in charge...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's a smaller population than I thought. I thought maybe a half a million at least but I guess not.

Edit: Source of picture - https://www.indexmundi.com/new_caledonia/#Demographics

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not large, but also not majority white, which is the more important thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah from what I understand the situation there is complicated. A majority of the people that live in New Caledonia want to stay a part of France and that majority is made of mostly the Europeans and the other migrants.

However the Kanak are socioeconomically disadvantaged compared to the rest of the state and they feel like they aren't being represented enough (due to a slim minority) on what they consider aboriginal land (even though other people have been living there for a long time too).

It is a weird situation.

Edit: added (due to a slim minority)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that despite western countries granting independence to their former colonies, the world order and the global economy is still set up in a colonial way. The global south remains dependent on western support.

I can’t blame some New Caledonians for wanting to remain a part of France. An isolated region like that greatly benefits from the economic support that being part of a larger country provides, even if it comes at the cost of racism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I can’t blame some New Caledonians for wanting to remain a part of France.

The people that are affected by the racism want to be independent and the people that aren't want to stay a part of France. So the cost isn't spread evenly, that's why there is this huge problem in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's outrageous that Europe and the US continue to hang on to their colonies and then feign moral outrage when Russia or China tries to exploit their neighbors.

France claims 13 overseas territories and the UK claims 14 overseas territories. France continues to exploit the its former African colonies.

You may have noticed that Haiti is a shambles these days. Well part of the reason is that after Haiti won it's independance, France demanded reparations. That's right, the colonizer demanded reparations from the nation of slaves who won their freedom. And for 122 years, until 1947, Haiti was saddled with this debt.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Your map shows their antarctic claim which is not recognized. Also no one freaken lives there. You might as well claim to own the moon.

Watch, next week someone will find oil there.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I used the auto-generated title for this but realized that the actual title looks different so should I change it?

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