Ask Lemmygrad

There was a really good video clip of a protestor in 2020, paraphrased: "we came out to protest, then the cops started hitting our heads with batons. we started wearing helmets, so they gassed us. We started bringing masks, so they attack us. Now we bring shields and they call them weapons. Someone is escalating this, but it's not us".

Basically, any evidence that you plan to defend yourself gives the cops, in their mind, cause to attack. Since you planned to defend yourself. Except fire. Cops are scared as fuck of fire.

I have a couple of thoughts regarding this.

First, in America at least, we spend a significant amount of time and energy legitimizing "nonviolent, civil disobedience" actions of the past , while pointing at any group that defends itself in any other capacity as just as bad, or worse!, than the status quo/gov/cops/take your pic. There is only one valid way, outside the ballot box, to demand/make change within liberal society and it is to literally demand that the gov/cops/military/local assholes beat you so badly that other onlookers are too embarrassed to let it carry on. This method is lovely for the ruling class because they can physically squash the people with demands and, if they are few enough of them, the protest ends, and the ruling class get several more years to run things.

As an extension of above, protest organizers, and some protestors, explicitly know that the cops are there to escalate the situation. To avoid escalation many people simply do not defend themselves or others.

This is all vibes base analysis based on my own experiences at protests, including ones where cops escalate the situation. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

non violence is literally a cia plot to quell workers organizing. The author that popularized this strategy was NED recipient and had ties to US intelligence, look it up and do post info if you find some, too late for me to dig through google.

Edit: heres the source, https://redsails.org/marcie-smith-gene-sharp/ , credit to @[email protected]

Take the student protests in The Netherlands for example. The second someone takes a knife or a bat or even a gun to these protests, it's over. You will probably be shot by the riot police. The media will be all over the place trying to demonise you even more. Regardless of the cause you are protesting for.

This isn't some adventurist fantasy. Actual protests and mass movements need organisation, discipline and strategy. Fringe groups trying to fight cops with weapons, however justified they may be, are not going to help your cause in any way.

Police will always be one level of militarization above protesters. If you bring guns the cops start bringing full autos, armored cars or planes.

Poorly organized and no preparation.

You don't always even need weapons. If you have a large mass of people, you shouldn't let a few chuds fuck up anyone in your group. I hate seeing videos of one lone asshole harassing a whole crowd. I remember recently seeing a video of one Zionist doing that to abig Palestinian protest, and most in the crowd were White. It's embarrassing.

I saw a video of a guy who drove his truck into a group of protestors, he then got out of his car and was physically confronting the protestors he almost hit. It seemed like some of the protestors wanted to fight him back but they were prevented from doing so by some type of security (wearing a yellow vest). He was allowed to get back into his vehicle and drive off. Does anyone know which video I’m talking about? Because it definitely relates. I was both surprised the guy was able to leave unscathed but also not since any self defence will be used to attack the protests.

You have zero experience at protesting, do you?

I would like to add that if you defend yourself the police will see it as violence and you won't just be arrested but you'll end up in jail

Because these protesters don't realize the US has no conscience.