I think I'll wait for the verdict and sentencing to see whether he's above the law or not
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I predict a guilty verdict for most/all counts and an especially light sentence.
That's optimistic.
I am expecting at least 1 Trump loyalist in the jury who will refuse to agree to any guilty verdict, resulting in a hung jury and a mistrial.
Exactly no way he gets a guilty verdict.
A single holdout doesn't necessarily mean a hung jury. If there is evidence of juror misconduct, like a juror making any indication that they never intended to be impartial, despite what they agreed to before the trial started, they can be removed and replaced by a backup.
There are 6 backup jurors for this case.
That’s too many ifs and whens
As a European, I’ll never get why Americans think it’s ok to let the general public who are 85% fucking morons be the deciding factor in complicated legal cases. Why do you even have judges and lawyers when in the end they have nothing to decide?
And some bullshit exception will be made so he can still run for the Presidency because someone will allow him to serve his sentence after his potential term. Either that or he'll be made to have some aide follow him around and pretend to act like an ankle alarm because he has a brand to uphold and a real one would cause harm.
You can run for president from jail
Probably 1 month probation and a $50 fine
"Think about what you've done. You may go."
Ding! Ding! Ding!
The scary thing: There are people out there who will change their vote depending on whether or not he's convicted.
If he's actually convicted and gets any sort of nontrivial sentence I will buy a tub of Ben and Jerry's Churro ice cream and eat the entire thing
I'm confused, yet inspired
Join me brother, nobody knows the joy of cinnamon ice creams
The churro chunks are the worst part, but cinnamon ice cream is best ice cream.
pops a lactaid you sonofabitch, I'm in
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
https://www.npr.org/live-updates/trump-trial-hush-money-live-updates
Come on sentencing let's score a big one!
I hate the gravitas this article is placing on his role! They are deciding, if a person, is guilty of a crime. It doesn’t matter who they were or what they might be. The preferential treamtment needs to stop.
Wow, literally the first sentence and already this article is full of shit.
His reputation is set in stone already. No matter what the jury decides he will appeal, and keep appealing until there's no one left to appeal to. He will not drop out of the race even if he is jailed (spoiler alert, he won't be), but assuming hell freezes over he'll still get at least 40 million votes.
Fuck articles like this. Why even post this click-bait trash!?
He's such a low bottom feeder he'll appeal if they find him not guilty on every charge.
He'll be convicted of at least some of the counts, but will immediately begin appealing the decision and won't face any consequences before the election.
Maybe the fact that he's now a "convicted felon" will sway some people, but my guess is that most will simply move their own internal goalposts "since it's still being decided on appeal"
I've already seen bumper stickers to the effect of "The people decide the president, not the courts." I doubt that a guilty verdict will sway anyone's opinion, sadly.
I guess they missed the 2000 election.
Fuck that, you pessimistic piece of dust. Just gotta put all your doubts and fears out there. Boo hoo.
He's going down. People are going to notice. It will change people's minds. All of them? Nope, fucking obviously. But it will change plenty of minds. Even if it's from a Republican vote to "I'll vote Republican when they can field a non-felon."
Keep your shitty pessimism to yourself.
Copium
“This time I’m going to catch him”
- Wile E. Coyote
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A lot of things have to go right for him to be convicted, just one juror having doubts will let him walk. And because Americans are provably more likely to be narcissists who love to be “the devil’s advocate” to feel important, I can’t see any situation where they all agree and he’s convicted.
Which of course in his braindead supporters minds will mean that he’s also not guilty in all the other cases.
I was wrong! WTF I love the American justice system now?
Can you imagine trump in a terminator movie?
If they make Terminator vs. Predator, he’d be a natural fit for the Predator given he likes to rape minors.