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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who will explain the concept of a regular printer to him?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who will explain the concept of a plotter to you?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Plotters are awesome.

Like a printer, but with pens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plotter

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or knives! Or inkjets! There are all kinds of bastards, I used to work with the knife variety (huge Roland thingamabobs) and also sell them.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (44 children)

Teachers are starting to enforce hand written assignments to stop the use of chatGPT

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could one not just copy a chat got essay by hand?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can't jack off, play league, and write your homework with just two hands

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think, the handwritten font, that is used by the plotter, does not support german umlauts. But if you create your own handwriting font, this might be a fun idea to try to get away with.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Stuff made here" has a video where he fools around with that idea. Worth checking out imo

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would assume, you have a standard text. That you handwrite. Then scan, so that the 3d printer can write in your handwriting!

All that for nobody to be able to read my crappy handwriting ;)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Its much more difficult than that to be actually believable. As u/Luftruessel said, theres a great video from “Stuff Made Here” where he goes deep inside the topic and tries to fool a graphologist.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is it writing German words with "ae" instead of the umlaut (ä)? That makes sense, if you're typing on a keyboard, but ChatGPT should be capable of outputting umlauts and it shouldn't be difficult either, to make that 3D printer place two dots above an "a"...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe he is swiss, they have some weird quirks. Like they don't do the ß either I believe. Maybe they don't use Umlaute. I'd ask them, but I can't understand them when they talk. That is not even a joke.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

We dont use ae as ä. We also use Umlauts :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only orthographic difference is not using ß.

There are more differences but they are in the vocabulary. The Swiss use a lot of French words. Velo instead of Fahrrad, Trottoir instead of Bürgersteig, Cheminée instead of Kamin, Porte-Monnaie instead of Brieftasche, Camion instead of Lastkraftwagen, and so on.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The saddest part of this is you probably learned more setting this up than if you had done the homework. You learned how to use ai text, a 3d printer, set it all up, and produce a viable result.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my view, this is not sad. It's just that education needs to incorporate parts of these new technologies into it. Technology is the future if education still wants you to write with a pen on paper then they are being outdated pretty fast.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teachers must be stupid af to believe its hand writen, but ill pretend they are. Just drop some blood and sweat on first page so they feel uncofortable to ask anything

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This one probably. I do remember this video of someone actually making one that a professional forgery expert flat out said was convincing enough that he would have believed it was handwriting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQO2XTP7QDw

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Y'all silly. They already have machines that write stuff out for you with pens and stuff. And markers, too.

I have one! A Cricut. But there are more kinds out there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was thinking about that, but the lines, kerning, and consistency would give it away. Unless you have some app that’ll fuck with all that a bit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Stuff Made Here is an absolute treasure

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So, first you need to learn how to set up the printer, then fetch the bot produced text, review (hopefully), load it to the printer, run a test to determine it every part is working, run the "print", review it...

I'd risk doing it yourself would be quicker

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (31 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

spend an hour writing or 10 hours failing to automate it

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

yeah but is it as fun?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hear me out:

Run a script remotely when you're teacher is giving your homework!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Pyramiden sind [?]auwerken
in Aegypten & Nordafrika.
Grabstaetten fr Pharaonen & Familien
Bekannteste Cheo...

Pyramids are [?] architectural works
in Egypt & North Africa.
Tombs for Pharaohs and [their] families.
The most famous Cheo...

The author replaced the missing Ä/ä in the stroke font with Ae/ae, which is only used in German in URLs, usernames and other places that don’t allow diacritics. However, the ü in für is still missing. This could only pass as handwritten notes at a glance even if the font replicates one’s handwriting perfectly. However, this is unlikely to be a real assignment for anyone over 12 years old (which I assume the author is because of the effort of repurposing a 3D printer and syncing up the lines) given that the answer is basically a Wikipedia page summary.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I were a teacher and saw that every duplicate handwritten letter looked very similar to the last few, I'd definitely either assume you have some form of OCD (or something of similar nature) or are using an "AI" chatbot and some writing tool to write for you and would probably wanna see you at some point to ask about it.

Only acception might be if a student uses one of those writing tools because of accessibility issues when it comes to writing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, you could install a character pack that has variation and then there is nothing they can do about it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think a few years back I've seen articles about AI that can mimic your handwriting, including errors.

Edit: Could be this

The text turned out by the algorithm created by Tom Haines and his fellow UCL researchers is authentic enough that human judges are unable to tell the difference.

Also, 2016 was 7 years ago? Damn.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

"As an AI language model, ..."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, if teachers are going to continue assigning stupid homework that can be completed by chatgpt then they have no excuse.

Homework is so pointless anyway. If a student needs to revise work to properly learn it. They should be trusted to just study independently or when needed be helped by the teacher.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depends on the age, in college my homework was like a check mark for 10% of my grade. Ignore it at your peril. In middle school you gotta see they are actually doing some work before you flunk them.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Depends what kind of homework. A huge portion of school is just there to learn how to learn. Learn how to teach yourself something. Getting the fundamental basics of knowledge and how to tackle subjects that are strange, foreign, boring.

Some things you'll have to learn by yourself. Students between 5 - 14 are just not there to learn vocabulary, basic maths, etc. on their own. It gives every student the chance to do it at their own pace, find their own way how to learn and understand it best, using the tools they learned during class.

That the execution of this theory is not the best (especially in certain countries) is obvious, however, I think without homework I would have no tools nowadays to get into a new, complicated topic without being tutored/ guided all the way through.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wrote my own software and used commercial plotter (from 90s - it is way faster than 3d printer) in order to achieve result that can make teacher believe that it was written. In my language it is required for letters to be connected when handwritten (my program does it), there are different variations for each letter that are stretched and rotated during generation (I used pen tablet in order to input them)

It was written mostly when I was in 10-11th grade (that's why the code is spaghetti) and I indeed wasted much more time than I would if I did my homework like a normal person

Btw here is repo: https://github.com/Snow4DV/3DWriter

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