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Murdered by Words

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine driving around, probably with a punisher logo somewhere on your uniform or gear, and then posting your big bust of… store brand groceries

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No one else has pointed it out yet but this cop also somehow got himself a $90k Hellcat for his patrol car.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Serious talk:

If you, or someone you know, is struggling, please use auntbetha.com or findhelp.com (same service) to search for and connect to support in your local area. It’s a free service. Use it.

Criminalising poverty is the most American dystopia ever. We can all help.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for adding this. I’ll see if I can sticky it to the top for anyone who needs to see it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you see someone stealing food... No you didn't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stealing food doesn't mean you're immoral, it means society is immoral.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. It means your stealing food. Some people just like to fucking steal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excluding mental disorders. I do not think anybody likes to steal, atleast not initially. They may have normalized it, even to the point where it may become second nature, or a habit. If there is a lot of such peope, society have failed them a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do not think anybody likes to steal

The rich. It's their entire lifestyle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If they're stealing it to eat, sure.

If they're stealing it so they can sell warm coat meat down the local flat roof pub and spend the proceeds on heroin, then... you probably also want to pretend you didn't see it because you're not paid enough to be stabbed by a junkie with a used syringe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Having to steal food is super tiresome. Would rather not have to, but I've never felt bad about doing it. Imagine that. The normalization of the degradation is my issue personally. Putting people on one side of a moral line based on bullshit economic factors that for the one stealing are a kin to the winds of fate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I care less WHY they stole the food. I just find it distasteful when the cops post these "look how bad ass we are" social media posts. Crime, no matter why it was committed, should not be used as someones time to celebrate or the special time before the trial to convince the public that the suspect is guilty via Facebook,etc. Least of all by the group of people who do the arresting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's because the police view themselves as a "team" that is basically 'playing' against the other team....everyone else. To them, this is a win and shows how good they are. It's quite disturbing how indoctrinated they are and almost nobody realizes it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They weren't even stealing name brand groceries! Lots of those are store brand products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They deleted the Tweet and released a halfhearted apology.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As is tradition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Now he just sits back and waits on his promotion. Nailed the asshole part of the evaluation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Inspector Javert over here.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just because somebody is stealing food doesn't mean they have to steal to live. Some people are just assholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean you're being one right now.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't👏commit👏crimes👏

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Don't👏be👏ball👏cancer👏

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If only you could stack "wage theft" on the back of a dodge for a social media photo op and brag about how the criminal behind it is being refused bail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just because somebody stole food because they're an asshole doesn't mean that everybody who steals food is an asshole.

We don't actually know which is true here, but we do know that it's far more likely someone is stealing groceries because the wealth inequality horrorshow has grown even more perverse in the last year.

Nevertheless, rather than defending an unnamed person from potentially reprehensible police, you defended the police and an unnamed retail store from a potentially reprehensible person.

I hope you've got shares in a grocery chain because it would be deeply pitiful if you weren't even doing this out of self-interest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call me crazy but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt before assuming the worst when I don't know their situation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro, this is the internet. None of it matters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Your mom should really be limiting your screen time.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hahha wtf, now they are asking us to "support" the shoplifters? Lol fuck that. Go to work

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shoplifting isn't right, but there are deeper issues than shoplifting if someone has to shoplift basic needs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Basic needs like air freshener and ketchup?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, people not working and just taking stuff is the basic problem

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean like billionaires right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Yea, so enoying when they go shop lifting

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Just let me ask you this, if you were hungry and had no money, would you consider stealing? Is the moral prohibition of theft stronger than your life?

If so please justify how you valuate property rights vs right to life, and where the limits are?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, so here is my apparently unpopular opinion: Stealing is bad, and trying to justify it is not ok and dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A hungry person stealing needed food is never immoral. A hungry person stealing from companies involved in making their life desperate enough to need to steal is highly moral.

Defending the wealthy against hungry people is immoral.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They also stole condoms, the ones they harm the most is their direct neighborhood when cheap stores leave the area and the remaing stores shift the burden of lost merchandise onto the paying customers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Condoms, which should be free.

No person lost their job or saw a difference in price due to this amount of theft. Stop spouting corporate propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think the person you responded to pointed out the condoms because they believe food-insecure people shouldn't have sex. Which is silly--you don't always have a choice in sex (not everyone's relationships are healthy). And if you're going to have sex, preventing unwanted pregnancy and disease is the responsible choice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is it about condoms specifically that somehow make this cross the like into doing economic damage to a whole neighbourhood lol.