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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No.

This isn't my standard instance but I do take a look at it sometimes. I'm definitely very far left leaning, I don't have a label that clearly fits me but I'm probably close enough to anarcho-communism or syndicalism. I live in the UK so it's pretty common for my views to fall further left of the USA.

I'm not particularly good at actually adhering to my own views, infact I don't think I've ever done e anything substantial to bringing my ideals into reality. My dream would be for small federated housing / workers co-ops and unions to get a good handle in my area, and then have the stability to grow.

The crucial reason I'm not a tankie is that I actively oppose top down leadership structures, and I'm actually more against authoritarianism than I am against the right, but I feel that in my country, conservatism and authoritarianism are deeply linked, and a bottom up power structure would do more to actively oppose facism and power consolidation than a far left authoritarian regime.

In short, No. My principles may make me a commie, but I'm an anarchist first.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I'm as tankie as they come.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (11 children)

NO

Tankie has been shifting way beyond its original meaning to just be a vague leftward stab, but being an anarchist and everything I don't think it applies to me just yet

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes.

I don't care to hide my aims; I don't move sheisty like some of y'all favorite Democrats do. Til all are fed and all have beds; my skin is Black, my star is Red.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

NO

When the current government is not doing a very good job at maximizing the happiness of its citizens, it's a natural reaction to look for answers from a different type of government. America has some enormous problems with capitalism as it currently operates, and communism offers solutions to many of those problems. The issue is the top-down power structure. Democracy keeps the most power in the hands of the general population, and i will always oppose giving that up. Beyond that, I'm open to any solutions for modern problems, public or private.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

If you oppose top-down structures, then why do you support Capitalism over Communism?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I really recommend asking this question on lemmygrad or hexbear, bc you'll get really good in-depth answers about the nature and differences between what's labelled as "democracy" in capitalist countries, vs the reality of whether citizens of a capitalist dictatorship have anything resembling democracy.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

i may or may not have a tanksona, but that doesn't make me a tankie.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I don't consider myself a tankie, because I'm an anarcho-syndicalist.

I've been called a tankie for suggesting that workers should organize tenant unions to kill the apartment bidding wars in NYC. I've been called a tankie for pointing out that their image of a tankie needs to almost have power to be any kind of threat worth warning against, and there are no tankies anywhere near power with the global rise of fascism. I've been called a tankie for asking someone to clarify what they meant by tankie. I've been told that scientific socialism both is and is not tankie behavior. The term is utterly meaningless. I've come to the conclusion that it's part of a 3rd red scare in an effort to sow division amongst the anticapitalist left.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

NO

I've never even been called one erroneously.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

YES

At least if we go off the Lemmy definition. I don't self identify.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Yes. I get called one everytime i defend or advocate for anything left of Bernie Sanders. "

"Communism is the riddle of history solved, and knows itself to be the solution."

Is as true today as it was when Marx wrote it almost 200 years ago.

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