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[–] [email protected] 139 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jeazus! Is that a gumdrop iMac?!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

No it's Satan

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Companies writing code be like: my source code

Companies using libraries be like: our source code

[–] [email protected] 128 points 2 months ago (5 children)

shoutout to the person who reported this post with "Reason: Bot meme, you can't even read it. whoever replies is a bot too" 😂

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'm blaming imgflip, not my incredible laziness

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

beep beep boop

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

What's funny is they could have made an actually funny joke about marxists.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Beep boop, comrade.

-pinko bot probably

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hmm. Self-organizing projects whose workers work on them entirely based on their need to be done, and the results freely distributed to anyone who wants a copy?

Literal fascism, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Things like FOSS stuff makes you think people can organize and work together freely to achieve a common goal, and maybe anarchy could work. But then, you see a busy intersection when the traffic lights go out and you realize the general public are idiots and everything devolves into selfish chaos as you're stuck a half mile back, as cars shoot through in no particular order and you inch closer to the madness terrified to make your left turn. I have zero trust in society without some form of rule and order.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Think about a roundabout though in comparison, no lights or specific order, and there is a learning curve, but overall they reduce traffic better then stoplights under many conditions.

I guess my point is sort of extrapolating that a structure/presentation also heavily influences how users perceive or use a product/idea

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Decentralization doesn't necessarily mean disorganization. You can create a Lemmy instance with no moderation and rely purely on the community itself to self moderate, much like someone can create an instance with rules, and if someone disagrees with the rules they can create their own. Both are part of a decentralized system, so no one is actually coerced into participating in any system by regulation, just social pressure.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

whose workers work on them entirely based on their need to be done

You mean there's projects out there where it's not a bunch of individual devs all working on their personal pet features and ignoring all else?

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lemmy's biggest mistake was not calling federations "communes" or "syndicates"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Well, who said the c in c/something is NOT commune? ;-)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Agile is the anarchism of software development: sounds nice on a high level but basically no theoretical foundation behind it and thus in practice everybody makes it whatever the fuck they want it to be.

[–] Esqplorer 7 points 2 months ago

Which is how anarchism has played out so far lol

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yes FOSS is communism, spontaneously arising under capitalism, requiring zero bloody revolutions.

Marx was right about the need for people to be nice and give things to each other, but he was wrong about it being necessary to destroy capitalism before this happened.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

FOSS isn't communism, Foss hasn't eliminated class relations. Using an free open source library to make more money for your boss isn't communism. While I love FOSS, it's definitely not communism.

Marx never said people aren't nice and don't give things to each other under capitalism as far as I know, where are you taking that from?

And the existence of FOSS is reliant on a few key sectors which capitalism could very well destroy or mutate into something much different than what they are now. I don't see far-fetched the idea that the entire physical infrastructure of the internet will one day be privately owned, and companies will be able to decide who takes part and who doesn't, what kind of content is allowed... The fact that the capitalist overlords still haven't eliminated it, doesn't mean they possibly can't.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (12 children)

I'm curious about your agile theory now !

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

It's half way to self management.

Software exists in a world that kind of exists outside of property. Cynics like to think that Agile got big because as some kind of fad because the kids love it, but the reality is that fully hierarchical models just cannot keep up with self organising teams.

The old model - the model that most of the rest of the world of work still uses - simply cannot compete on a level playing field where the means of production (a cheap computer) are available to all. A landowner can stop you building your own house, but Microsoft can't really stop you building your own software, so they still have to put in work to collect rent.

Imagine what we could accomplish as a species if the goals and distribution of resources were also decided democratically.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

But it's not "from each according to his ability". FOSS is what people feel like contributing. And it's not "to each according to their need". It's take it or leave it, unless someone feels like fulfilling requests.

Traditionally, the slogan meant a duty to work. Contributing what you feel like is just charity.

Capitalism, at its core, is private control of the capital. Copyright law turns code into intellectual property/capital. I've read the argument that copyleft requires strong copyrights. That argument implicitly makes copyleft a feature of capitalism. You know how rich people or corporations sometimes donate large sums to get their name on something, EG a hospital wing? That's not so different from a FOSS license that requires attribution.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

FOSS works with the quoted text for the same reason piracy is not technically stealing. How do you make the quoted text work with physical goods or services? How do you allocate the work of a cosmetic surgeon, or distribute nail polish?

Edit to give examples that are more cis male oriented: how do you distribute viagra in an equitable manner? Basically I am asking where do non-utilitarian services or Veblen goods fit into this paradigm. Technically we don’t need computers to survive and mate, so that mitigates the need for FOSS

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Needs more pixels

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