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[–] [email protected] 99 points 5 months ago (4 children)

People voted on national issues instead of voting on European issues.

So tired of everybody using this election for petty protest votes.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm tired of calling it protest votes. The last idiot in a cave should have heard by now that they are literally Nazis. People who voted for them are Nazis. Which gives me the creeps as a citizen of Germany.

But on the national issues thing I'm full on your side.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

No, no, you don't understand, I voted literal nazis because someone of the parties that are not literal nazis said "they" instead of "he".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

To anyone still voting for them it’s feature, not a bug

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Even voting on national issues this would be a load of BS.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I feel like that's the intellect of your average voter.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 5 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's some fine future Dutch soil you got there.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

G E K O L O N I S E E R D

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ich hΓ€tte es Ostsee genannt aber auch gut

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Hauptsache See, egal, ob Ost oder Boden.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Der Witz hat irgendwann mal mit Bergdeutschland angefangen. Somit ist's aus historischen GrΓΌnden der Bodensee geworden.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's cool that Bodensee is now an actual See

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

β€žSeeβ€œ has 2 meanings in German:

  • der See - lake
  • die See - sea

So, der Bodensee is now die Bodensee.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Infuriated AfD noises

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why'd Bavaria sink? The map shows they voted CDU? Or was that a separate retribution?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

Oh Sinking Bavaria was something personal. Every German understands him. That had nothing to do with the Votes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

There is CDU and CSU. Together they form the Union. CSU is only active in Bavaria, but they are even more conservative than the CDU. Both would cooperate with the far right tho so we can sink most of Germany

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Bavaria voted CSU, which is Bavaria's own, even more "conservative" splinter group of the CDU that has run Bavaria as a de facto one party state for the most part of its post WW2 history. One of the reasons why the AfD doesn't score that high in Bavaria is that the domestic Bavarian parties are so far right that there is virtually no demand for a dedicated Nazi party.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Brain drain finally showing itself

Most of the creative and ambitious people left the GDR when the wall came down.

I heard a theory recently from someone that was part of the peaceful revolution in Leipzig and now thinks that many people actually didn't mind the government telling them what to do and then not really having a choice in the matter and being under constant surveillance as long as they had a decent life. And that the protests in hindsight probably were more about them seeing how much better the life in the west was than about the personal and political freedom since the GDR apparently did a pretty good job to get rid of those concepts (at least for many citizens).

Now those same people are again voting only for their personal gains and not for freedom for everyone to live however they want as that was never in their interest to begin with

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Not only brain drain. Also real, decades old highly refined Russian propaganda and rampant running capitalism.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Light blue should be brown.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You can paint a turd blue, but underneath that thin layer of blue paint, it will stay a stinking pile of brown shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

"Warum ist Scheiße braun?
Weil Braun schon immer scheiße war."

Brown. Like. Shit.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The left-leaning parties disappointed me with their posters this election. There was 1 that said "Set a mark against fascists" and showed an anti-afd protest, and another with a similar message.

I know they are the nazi party, I want to know what YOU stand for. I'll have to guess political scientist found out nobody really changes their mind from a poster, so the only thing they do is remind people of their party that they need to go out and vote.

If that's the case, the poster may be better than I give it credit for. Still, doesn't seem to have worked.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Tbh the cdu had a poster that said "1 reason to vote for us: traffic lights coalition"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's fascinating that the DDR has elected nazis, because over here in Czechia, which was essentially a non-German DDR, the election was won in half by our CDU and in half by our careerist populist party (but not a nazi). It seems to be a specifically East German thing...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Has to do with how people in the east are basically being dragged behind by the west. They are getting paid less, but have to pay the same amount as westerners for electricity, gas, water, internet, and everything else except for rent and sometimes food.

A lot of the folks I talk to remember how the "west" turned the previously state owned railway company into a private company which caused almost ~75% of the at that point running rail network to be shut down for profit reasons.

People are upset, nothing is being done, they are being fed propaganda, and the results can be seen as clear as day

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How will the far right help with any of that? They’re not known for running public utilities.

One would think that if that’s your problem you’d vote further left - renationalise public utilities etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

The propaganda is sadly very effective

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

now it's surrounding berlin instead if dividing it

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@Servais *sigh* will that Gorbachew guy ever tear down that wall?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible. This time they are voting for Nazis. Horseshoe theory proved correct yet again?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The horseshoe theory is still bullshit, as is assuming GDR was a "far left" opposite to far right AfD nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imo, it moreso proves that poverty causes desperation, desperation causes people to be way more susceptible to political extremism.

I don't think this has anything to do with the GDR except for the fact that it left east Germany in poverty.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

if you're driving through East German cities you know why they're voting populist right wing parties. there's no work, poverty and half of the houses are empty because a lot of the people already left.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

This time they are voting for Nazis.

Again. They were also one of the first ones where the NSDAP got their chunk of votes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Black is only marginally better. No reason for the west to feel superior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible.

https://lemmy.today/post/11881508

Germany: Largest party in 2024 EU elections vs 1947 west/east Germany division

I think that the real issue here is that Walter Model did an effective job of halting Operation Market Garden.

That was pre-Yalta, and my guess is that if it had succeeded, the occupation lines probably would have been further east.

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