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Israeli Scientists Are Shunned by Universities Over the Gaza War (www.bloomberg.com)

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel is the single state most responsible for antisemitism since its foundation.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

While we're at it, the United States is the world's largest sponsor of terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

If by "sponsor" we include "perpetrator"

[–] Vivendi 1 points 2 months ago

I detect no lies

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Good for them. Maybe they could go work for NASA when all is said and done.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm assuming they mean they're shunning Zionist scientists? I would guess that there are pro-Palestine scientists out there who have Israeli citizenship.

Edit:article is subscription-walled but from what I read it's specifically that scientists at Israeli institutions are getting dropped in protest.

[+] [email protected] -15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is extremely foolish. If western universities and companies shun Isreali scientist, then it won't take long for countries with antagonistic attitudes towards the west to embrace them, like Russia or China

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Why would you believe this? First you would have to answer why the scientists are being shunned. Then, is this the same problem in these other countries? Then you have to ask why would it be a bad thing for them to work elsewhere? What about the countless good scientists in the west who are unemployed? Why not be worried about them going to other countries?

I suspect you aren't involved in science at all. The default is that scientists travel between countries for opportunities. There are far more scientists than jobs for them, especially when you consider the scientists trained in very specific fields. To be concerned with the shunning of a specific nationality of scientists ignore why they may be shunned. And to be concerned with where this specific group will then go, is low-key racist.

[+] [email protected] -18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This partixular boycott is misaimed and pointless. Science and culture belong to the world, not to any country. By all means boycott research with military applications, or individuals who work alongside the IDF or other violent groups, but what's the point in boycotting research on medicine or water purification?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think Israel has bombed and totally destroyed all universities and libraries in Gaza?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I guess they're trying to erase Palestinian culture? But why should scientists behave like IDF goons?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I guess they're trying to erase Palestinian ~~culture~~

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I think you are right (erasing culture is part of a genocide). But why target scientists specifically? To boycott, divest, and sanction (BDS) a country committing genocide, you target what you can. A university can divest from Israeli companies, and boycott their universities through the cancelling of visiting academics, joint research projects, etc. beyond that the university has little direct action they can take.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Science and culture are inherently linked to politics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I take it you disagree with the sanctions to Russia as well?