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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak condemned the incident as a “disgraceful act of vandalism”.

Not as disgraceful as awarding oil drilling licenses to companies your family is invested in.

Leader of the Labour Party Sir Keir Starmer said the damage

There is no damage: 'Just Stop Oil said the orange powder paint was cornflour and it would "wash away with rain".'

was "outrageous"

Not as outrageous as forcefully replacing local Labour candidates with your own choices.

and described Just Stop Oil as "pathetic"

Not as pathetic as Labour's climate policies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Did any of them comment on the reason for the protest, or just the act itself? I don't want to see things like stonehenge or priceless art getting fucked up, but I am OK with more things being fucked up if that is what it takes... I'm fully expecting environmental extremism to become a thing in the next few years, as the situation will get worse and these sort of protests haven't achieved anything.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A collection of reactions from the oil industry...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Wait wait wait, hold your horses. Do you mean to tell me, that the oil industry doesn't care for this protest, or any protest for that matter? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you. It's almost as if this protest wasn't meant to impress the oil exec-types...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Almost like the protest isn't aimed at oil industry shills and instead at politicians.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"They are sensitive and they are completely covered in prehistoric markings which remain to be fully studied and any surface damage to the stones is hugely concerning.

“A rich garden of life has grow on the megaliths, an exceptional lichen garden has grown. So it’s potentially quite concerning.”

This is important - they aren't just a bunch of old rocks, they develop a "varnish" and an ecosystem that can protect them.

They say it's just cornflour and will wash off in the rain but people tend not to coat ancient monuments in cornflour, so we don't really know what the effect might be.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"They are sensitive and they are completely covered in prehistoric markings which remain to be fully studied and any surface damage to the stones is hugely concerning.

Bullshit. There is next to no other historic site that has been studied in greater detail. If no scientist up until now has created a detailed map of what is to find on those stones, then frankly, it's their own fault.

If anything, they should be concerned about acidic rain caused by air pollution. But you don't hear much about that, now do you?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

They’re going to be fucking annoyed when they’re told there’s no oil there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it come out a while back that Just Stop Oil is actually bankrolled by some oil company and is essentially meant to create a false narrative against actual climate protestors? Am I misremembering?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

They are funded by an organisation called Climate Organisation Fund of which is funded by someone called Aileen Getty who's family own Getty Oil.

Whether or not they are wanting to create a false narrative is questionable. I personally don't think so, but who knows...

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The Tories want to destroy Stonehenge to build a motorway so let's not pretend it's sacrosanct now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Is this hyperbole or literally true?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You might have to state your sources there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm aware of the tunnel and at no point would it "destroy Stonehenge". There are concerns that construction might harm as yet undiscovered parts of the wider ritual landscape.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

So you mean the Tories are also assholes? Tell me something I didn't know

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

This group undermine and delegitimise other climate activist groups by association

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Hard disagree. As far as I'm aware, everything they've done so far is attention-grabbing and harmless. All the paintings were behind glass, and the stuff here is water soluble.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

How? Is your support for not going extinct really contingent on your personal feelings about a particular activist group?

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