It's a nothing article. There's no reason to have ever assumed it was a constitutional right
There's plenty of other, much better reasons to justify the need for stable climate.
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It's not about justifying the need for a livable climate, but being able to legally enforce the future having one.
The constitution also doesn't deny the right to a stable climate, if that is what you mean.
It just has nothing to do with it.
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Then possibly something needs to change - add a new Amendment or something. But to claim that old laws written with an old understanding of how the world works needs to somehow carry the semantic weight of something it was never written to do seems a bit much.
Why does the Constitution need to be involved? The federal government already has power to regulate emissions, so there's nothing stopping Congress (from a constitutional perspective) from passing laws to do so.
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I mean, they're right. Nothing in the constitution says anything about the climate.
In this case I don't think "It's not a constitutional right" means "so I guess we're going to do nothing". It's just that some legal groundwork needs to happen.
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Except this case was denied by the Supreme Court in 2018,
I mean, that's correct. There is in fact nothing about a stable climate in the US constitution. The courts need to have at least a pretense of interpreting existing laws rather than dictating what the laws ought to be.
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Why does it need to be in the US constitution for it to matter?
Many of my countrymen seem to think if it's not a problem written down on some dusty old piece of paper, at least 1-2 centuries old, it isn't a problem now.
Something that isn't in the constitution is, by definition, not a constitutional right.
requires the federal government to maintain a climate that supports human life.
Unironically this is a new frontier of ghoul behevior. The next time a person tells me some shit like Biden is "the most progressive president since FDR" I'm straight up spitting in their face.
Biden can't just dictate DOJ positions. DOJ is saying that, as a matter of law the Constitution doesn't say that. That if they use that argument in court, they'll lose. They're not saying that's a good thing and they're certainly not saying that Biden doesn't care about climate change.
As a leftist, anyone who says biden and fdr in the same sentence generally gets a guffaw…. But thankfully it’s usually the punchline of a joke anyways, so
Who's the most progressive president since fdr?
FDR was really the only slightly good (post-Lincoln) US president. And that was really only because he knew heads were going to start rolling if the government didn't throw some bones to the working class.
Who was the most progressive president since fdr?
Your original comment suggested you have an opinion on this
I don't really have an opinion on it, I think it's a meaningless aphorism.
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LBJ if u ignore the vietnam war, Carter. Probably JFK too. 
Fair reply thanks
I think the insane-o mode pick is Nixon with the clean water act and epa but otherwise....
Who cares? But if you were just talkig about the environment it would be Nixon.
No one cares and nothing matters, life is pointless.
But this is a message board so we should send messages.
I actually commented about Nixon too, funny enough
If I had any courage, I should keep track of all this shit Biden and his team has done and when CHUDs whine, point to it and ask "He's giving you everything you want, what more do you want?"
God, I wish it was the opposite, both parties favor the left, but Republicans just give the normies lip service, which seems to be what appeases them anyways.
Do you want a Constitutional Amendment? Because that's how you get a Constitutional Amendment.
There's no chance of that happening. There have been no amendments in over 30 years. And no amendments that weren't a joke in over 50 years. You won't get 3/4 of the states to agree to anything the least bit controversial.
(You won't even get "just" 2/3 of the House and Senate to agree to even propose the amendment.)
Yeah, no, we shouldn't have a constitutional amendment for that. We cannot and should not try to control the climate, we can merely control our contributions to global pollution. And contributing to global pollution isn't Constitution territory, but regulation territory.
Don’t need a constitution when everything is on fire or under water
Which leads directly to the statement "there is no constitutional right that the government will protect the citizens of this country from harm".
Then what the fuck do we need government for?
I mean, they're not wrong, but it shouldn't matter. I don't know why this was brought up when it was assumed to be the case to begin with.
Congress still needs to pass legislation to try and limit climate change as much as possible.
The doj: 
Joe Biden is terrible for this country, the DNC needs to stop pushing 80 year old boomers
i love how you frame this is some how a thing only the dnc does. especially when the republicant party has done the same and part of it is still trying for the 77 year old russain spy.
I don't see anywhere the OP is saying it's unique to the DNC, only that the DNC is doing it and should stop.
The GOP should also stop.
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