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Missouri politicians put a trick measure on the November ballot to silence your voice (www.kansascity.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This year, the Missouri General Assembly passed a deceptive measure that could actually make it harder for us to hold our leaders accountable. You will see this measure on your November ballot, claiming that it stops noncitizens from voting — even though that has been illegal for a century. It’s an unnecessary and misleading proposal, but without Missourians reading the fine print, it may very well pass — based on a lie.

One of the simplest examples is called “pick-all-you-like” or approval voting: When voters go to the ballots, they can choose any number of candidates they support, rather than being forced to settle on one option.

Unfortunately, the legislature’s trick measure in November would take away your choice to hold leaders accountable by hiding what’s really on the ballot. It’s a deceptive attack on local control.

I'm a fleshy human being who took out some quotes manually.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you mr Fleshy. Don't you think multiple ranked choice is a better voting mechanism?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's my preferred, however, almost anything that moves away from the one-choice, winner-takes-all design is an easy win IMHO.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So why was it presented as a voting manipulation? Is it deception?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

The deception is that the item presented for vote appears to be about illegal voting of non-citizens, but this isn’t related to the actual law being voted upon.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's why I don't like you mammals! You're all... fleshy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was born ready to go full cyborg. I am not impressed with the meat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel, I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So it either bans or revokes existing ranked choice balloting? It's unclear from the article if they already have it, and this removes it, or if it's an attempt to ban it before it even gets started.

[–] otter 8 points 5 months ago

The only current think close to ranked choice voting in the state that I'm aware of is in St. Louis City where a few positions are elected based on a double run off where the top two candidates of the first election have a subsequent run off.

I read an article a little bit back where the politician championing it was quoted saying "it's too confusing" and that is the primary reason it needs to be banned in the state constitution. So that's the kind of people trying to push this through.

What I believe they really want is to clamp down on any chance of local municipalities trying to use an alternative voting system to first past the post. Those in power would be threatened by people having more choice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

If they already had ranked choice, I doubt this would be on the ballot.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Link was paywalled for me and I could not make sense of the posted excerpt.

Ballotpedia link

Tldr the measure bundles citizenship language (change from "all" citizens to "only" citizens can vote) and a RCV ban - among other things - into one constitutional amendment.