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[-] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago

If xmpp and matrix are included, why not include email?

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Truly, email is (thankfully) mostly unspoiled as a protocol since it's beginning. Other than minor improvements and additions like HTML and spam filters and the like, anyone can host an email service and interface with anyone else on the Internet with the same protocol.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

anyone can host an email service

Eh, no. You could in the 2000s, nowadays spam protection is so tight, and necessarily that tight, that you need at least a full-time position actively managing the server or you're getting blacklisted for some reason or the other. Other servers will simply not accept emails sent by you if you don't look legit and professional.

Definitely possible for a company with IT department, as a small company you want to outsource it (emails being on your domain doesn't mean you're managing the server), as a hobbyist, well you might be really into it but generally also no. Send protonmail or posteo or whoever a buck or something a month.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And bluesky?

Unpopular opinion maybe but it is / will be a federated platform (whether we like it or not) and there even is a bridge to Mastodon, I think.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

I think the graphic is too old to include bluesky (2022)

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, you're right. I didn't see the date.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

This graphic is almost two years old, is it still up to date?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

not really. kbin is kinda dead. long live mbin

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

mbin is everything I wanted kbin (and lemmy) to be.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

What does mbin have that Lemmy does not? Should I switch to mbin?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you're happy with Lemmy then don't.
This is mostly a mix of personal preferences and neat little differences I enjoy, plus I like the local community.

Then again, if you're curious, check it.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

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What does mbin have that Lemmy does not?

IMHO much better integration with the rest of the Fediverse, it supports note type activity (posts without a title, thus supporting most of the Fediverse), it supports adding tags (#hashtags) to threads, it also supports boosting posts and a few more things like that

There will also be PeerTube support soon

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

does mbin have an app for ios/android yet?

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Seems like it's time to make an updated depiction

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] Yep, I wonder who's the author of it, maybe they can update it

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[-] Cethin 5 points 2 weeks ago

I had never heard of mbin. I see it's a fork of kbin. What does it do differently?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

its in active development, for starters.

the point of mbin wasnt originally differentiation of any kind, it was that the lone kbin dev did not share duties, or actually develop on a normal timeframe. this behavior kept kbin from flourishing and implementing all kinds of suggested, developed PRs.

it was forked to mbin as a community project where anyone who wants to contribute basically can by committee instead lone stewardship. you would need to check the repo for all the changes per version... but the best part is, its an active dev group.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, Nextcloud has AP integration?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, internally and also with a beta-stage Nextcloud Social app, but the builds appear to be out of date and not working that well with the latest Nextcloud installations.

https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-introduces-social-features-joins-the-fediverse/

https://github.com/nextcloud/social

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

The last release is more than three years old... at this point, I'd consider it dead.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

There are still commits being pushed to it in 2024, but a lot of the open issues are talking about errors that apparently were fixed but not provided in a release.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

BookWyrm was my first dip into the Fediverse, back when I was looking for an alternative to Goodreads.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Really surprised it's the only book related fork of the fediverse here

Do people not read any more?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think this is the exact cause for the situation, but having more book related forks would probably just do harm by splitting up the audience. The book reading trackers are absolutely dominated by Goodreads, and any alternative desperately needs as much user concentration as possible.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't think you can correlate the number of readers to the number of book instances or whatever they're called. Most people (myself included) probably just use Goodreads, and BookWyrm is probably a good enough alternative that there's no need to spin up another.

Edit: according to this there's a lot of instances: https://joinbookwyrm.com/instances/

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Most people I know who read a lot use StoryGraph, and mostly for personal tracking, not as a social app.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I know Threads sucks, but where would it fall on this? Another Networking one?

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It would be an enemy aircraft hovering above the trees with a flamethrower, threatening to burn them down

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Ohh so THAT'S what all those "I identify as an attack helicopter" people were talking about!

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

It is the aggressive megacolony of fungus embedding its mycelia in the base of the tree

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes as it is almost the same category as mastodon

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

If we're including xmpp and matrix, then we should include Email 🤭

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I wish there was one for jobs :(

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Wouldn't get used by corps probably?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I've been missing an alternative to Facebook that I can use for non-anonymous planning of events and communication in hobby groups etc. and I had never heard of any of the "Facebook-type" federated stuff before!

Now I just need to convince a bunch of people that this is viable to use without being the annoying guy...

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I want a MySpace clone. Does that exist as an open source project in the fediverse?

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Love it! Now we just need a guy named Tom, and a super potato quality camera for Toms profile pic.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

We're all Tom on OurSpace.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not fediverse, but a personal website on Neocities is customizable

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Keeping an eye out for the matrix commune-os project to get to ActivityPub support. Them and Forgejo and Gitlab work to add AP support!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Lot of love for GitLab, it's a solid enterprise product.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Nostr must be a bigger tree

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, that's more than I thought!

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