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Collapse of Civilization

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Discussion regarding the potential collapse of global civilization, defined as a significant decrease in human population and/or...

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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/BaseballSeveral1107 on 2024-07-07 11:26:52+00:00.


If you were alive in the 2000s, you've probably seen movies like The End of Suburbia, videos like There's no Tomorrom, books like the Limits to Growth from the 70s, and articles and stuff made by and for doomers and preppers. Or at least that's what most of us thought.

They weren't doomer when they said that we're slaves of the system.

They weren't doomer when they mentioned Peak Oil, energy shortages, resource shortages and so on.

They weren't kidding when they said that dangers like solar storms, EMP attacks, blackouts, cyberattacks on critical infrastructure and infrastructure collapse are coming.

They weren't kidding when they said that those that will survive in the new world will be those that will prepare and adapt.

They weren't doomer when they said that everything in our daily lives, from our cars, planes, ships and trains, our heating and cooling, electricity, water supply, food supply, modern suburbia, modern cities, our supply chains, the internet, TV, mass available music, movies, games and books, healthcare, education, communication, our political systems and the global and national economy and global society all are interdependent on cheap and abundant fossil fuel energy and resources.

They weren't kidding when they said dangers like pandemics, wars, extremism, nuclear war, climate change, ecosystem damage, resource and energy depletion, topsoil loss, and pollution all will or can cause civilization collapse.

They all weren't wrong, they were just early. In the 2000s, energy and resources were still cheap. Now, we're in a hangover after the post WWII euphoria of consumption, indefinite economic growth, runaway-consumption-lifestyles, etc. Now we're finally waking up and realizing that we can't run like this any longer, due to climate change, resource depletion, ecological destruction, rising cost of living, democracy decline and inequalities.

The only thing they were wrong about was that renewables and electric vehicles are niche. We're seeing them booming, so the transition might be less painful. But still, our enormous consumption, indefinite economic growth, runaway-consumption-lifestyles, etc. are unsustainable.

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