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Ersei, the developer behind this so-called Cloud Native Computer, says the project was primarily a “silly” pursuit. There is also a problem with booting from Google Drive currently being very slow. However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it.

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Soo, booting your computer from someone else's computer?

I mean we've had thin clients and PXE for ages?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And bootp before that, and tftp before that. So I think roughly... 35 years?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

PXE specifically uses tftp doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

More being able to use cloud storage and not need a full physical secondary computer. In theory the cloud can be accessed anywhere, even if a portion is down, not the same for a single physical PC.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

is the non physical cloud in the room right now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nope! That's the point. It's in someone else's room!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (20 children)

More being able to use cloud storage and not need a physical computer.

Are you going to access The Cloud telepathically?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do thin clients and PXE require a server specifically configured to serve a boot image? (Genuinely asking.)

I'm not sure whether this project is doing something new by just accessing network resources that are nothing more than shared files, without any specific software running on the server (beyond just a server serving files).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Yes, they do. The novel thing here is serving the files out of Google Drive.

There are existing PXE servers that run over the Internet, like boot.netboot.xyz, so that you don't have to run your own (assuming you trust everyone involved in that connection). Those are far more practical.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So it's a thin client remote booting extremely slowly over a really high latency connection. Cool, the 1980s called and they want their tech back.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago (1 children)

However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it.

"We're looking for dumb investors that don't understand technology so we can sell them a bridge."

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bro forgot to liberally sprinkle blockchain and AI dust on his project before offering it to investors

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's basically booting and running the OS from inside the AI in the cloud!! The system doesn't "use" blockchain, it's made of blockchain! Every file is an NFT by default which provides a built in system for profit for everything you do on the computer!

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So they reinvented terminals, but worse

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago

Put a swap file on that bad boy boy and they've invented downloading ram!

This is a revolution.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Aw yiss, all of my information on Google’s servers siiiiiicc

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago

Wow this sounds useless. Congratulations or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Interesting experiment, but I'd rather have a personal machine that isnt completely useless when/if the internet goes out. Also would be nice not to depend on a centralized service that could easily revoke access.

Seems like it's better suited for company work computers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

when/if the internet goes out.

Or worse, when it basically sends a different image...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Looks like a new CVE dropped lol

[–] shortwavesurfer 5 points 1 month ago

Boot from IPFS!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Good luck booting when Google nukes your account

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can see two issues here:

It’s not really a storageless computer. It’s using EFI as storage to build the ramdisk.

What happens if you need to change things because of a change of cloud account, change of cloud API etc etc

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No computer is ever really storageless. Even the BIOS has to be stored somewhere. If you didn't have any storage, you wouldn't be able to load any code, and it would not be a computer, it would be a brick.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the thing that gets me is that said dev tried it first with amazon S3 and it worked infinitely better there

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of the image macro about using drive as your swap

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Primarily a silly pursuit”

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, but it then goes on saying

"However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it."

And that's what I'm saying "y tho" to.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I mean, shit. If I did something stupid for fun and some idiot business major wants to pay me for an implementation, regardless of how useful It actually is, I’m not turning it down.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So we’re back to ~~PXI~~ PXE? Everything old is new again.

Neat technical problem to solve though just for fun

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I set up a PXE image for the Arch installer and scripted the whole installation. The idea was to switch the boot order and have it auto-reimage, such as for a IOT device deploy.

Once I built it, I never used it again. But it was a fun afternoon.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Netboot.xyz ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

One of my duties in my first job was to build diskless computers. I’d record an EPROM in the station and boot from a Novell server.

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