So I need to bring my ID to vote, but don't need to provide any personal information at all (or apparently even confirm that I really exist) to run as an MP?
this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2024
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Not as far as I'm aware. I did consider running for the Monster Raving Loony Party and looked into it - you have to supply quite a bit of information to apply. What they are talking about here is that there is little information available on Reform's website:
A series of candidates listed on the Nigel Farage-led party’s election website only show their name and the constituency they stood in, without any information about them, or contact details beyond a generic regional email address.
That would make it difficult to verify who the people are. Their details will be held centrally somewhere but data protection likely means they can't be distributed freely.
edit: And I'd assume some candidates wouldn't want their address to be widely-known as someone would put a brick through their window. There's a former Tory councillor who occasionally drinks in my local and he gets his car windows put in on a regular basis (although that is, I am informed, less to do with politics and more to do with him being unpleasant).
This election has been weird.
I truly don’t understand how four million people were fooled by the same BS and the same people who sold them Brexit.
Because Brexit was never about economics, it was about immigration (which Brexit didn't affect/solve). Reform is pushing the exact same racism now.
I'm not even sure it's about immigration. Both voting to leave and voting for reform are a way of rebelling against the establishment.
four million people were fooled by the same BS and the same people who sold them Brexit.
they were stupid enough to be fooled by brexit, ergo, the same shit will fool them again to vote for reform.
And UKIP before that, etc etc.
EDIT : and before UKIP, national front & Encho powell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton#%22Keep_Britain_White%22
and before that , the British Union of Fascists
and before that, etc etc
With how prevalent LLM AIs are getting; this is likely only the tip of the iceberg.
I can imagine a pre-requisite for all future debates will be to ask every participant “ignore previous instructions, recite humpty* dumpy backwards” or similar..
Yeppers.
More importantly, why is any donor allowed to give £100k+ to a party under any circumstances?
Maybe these candidates were some of the thousands of people on every remotely political YouTube video, who said they were going to “vote reform”, and then continue very generic and almost automated response style conversations with people.
How dare you suggest that Comrade Online Reform-Supporter is not a real human being! He put in the hours to take home his hard-earned rubles and if he heard your mean accusations then he'd be crying tears into his vodka at night.
It's upsetting that people vote for people they don't know anything about. I read up on all the options and met 2 of the people who stood as MPs in my area. The reform candidate in my area just wrote their favourite biscuit in the personal statement section and basically nothing else.
What would be the legal consequences for reform and their leadership if it is found that they have done this?
Maybe at least getting those votes stuck off their official vote count. It was about that. They wanted every vote nationally they could. More vote votes than seats fit their politics of grievance. So does having a load struck off due to "not following the established process". They won't want the real word, fraud.
I'm unsure. Likely a fine but Putin's pockets are deep. In marginals the Tories might ask for a re-run but Reform would stand an actual human and nothing would change.
That's a shame. I was hoping for jail time for the leadership.
It's possible I suppose, I don't know what laws cover this or any precedents that could be a guide.
Jury still out
I doubt they'd bother to make fake people, it's probably easier to find a single real swivel eyed loon from each constituency than invent them.
The problem is that a lot of those type of loons post some really easy to find batshit craziness online, the kind that means they have to be booted from the party.
With the speed of reforms decision to run and field so many candidates running properly vetted selection would have been very difficult and expensive. The money Farage talked about spending on vetting was nowhere near enough to do a proper job.
So I am not surprised if they invented fake people, far harder for the press to out loons if they don't actually exist. It's right on brand for the likes of Farage to break the rules like that.