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Will it be able to compete at all costs wise, given its lack of reusability?

BBC mentioned it would probably be a decade before the ESA reaches that sort of technology.

Sorry for dumb question I haven’t been following space stuff at all. But I read a couple articles on yesterdays launch and was interested.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Having the strategic capabilities to access space without having to rely on a far-right billionaire who is a big supporter of the person commiting genocide in Ukraine right now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Niche of political points.

It is mainly "we can do it too" project now. There are lots of subcontractors, jobs and research put in to it but it won't be price competitive any time soon. It is similar to SLS programe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think it will have any market outside of European government contracts.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I suspect, for very large constellation projects or similar, which would be adversely affected by a launch provider abruptly stopping launches for any reason, they might want to buy a few launches for redundancy purposes -- just risk mitigation.

I mean operators that aren't Starlink, in this case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One day Musk will completely lose his mind beyond his current level of having lost his mind

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

While I agree with you that this is possible, I don't think Ariane 6 is in any position to replace Falcon 9.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think the only niche will be stubborn European governments.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean in any case it’s good to have a backup to not have to rely on someone as uhh… unfavourable and unpredictable as Musk, but that’s disappointing to hear.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately, SpaceX is streets ahead of anyone else in the launch industry in terms of reusability and, in turn, price. In a purely capitalistic system, they’d be putting everyone else out of business, but the US government wants a second source vendor, so ULA stays around, and foreign governments want independent access to space, for a combination of national security and pride, so the Russian, Chinese, Indian, and European space agencies keep on trucking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I suspect in 10 years or so that’ll change. There are lots of new space companies, it just takes a long time to build a new rocket.