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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Stormgate should be out soon. It made its rounds already with SC2 streamers, so there are a few videos of beta gameplay out there. (It appears to be a modern SC2) From what I can see, it looks good but I honestly have no idea.

July 30 is the release date on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, wow - didn’t realize we were that close. I assume that’s early access.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Early access is almost/already over? The full unlock is on the 30th, I assume. I dunno if all the streamers showing it were on pre-early release or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

What streamers were playing were two different builds from separate betas that ran for about a month each.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I played for a bit during the beta a few months ago (before the third race was in the game) and it was quite fun but clearly very far from finished. It should be in a better state when early access starts in a couple weeks, but I'm sure there will still be many rough edges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So excited for this. A few friends and I are going through all the SC2 campaigns (3pl coop mod) and having a blast. We played a ton of SC1 back in the day. I remember playing til 3-4am some sessions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is there such a mod for SC1?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I will check, that would be amazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did the SC1 remaster allow for more than 2 players?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I know you requested steam, but beyond all reason is legitimately good and free. Runs on all major OS's, has a good user base and excellent development.

Beyondallreason.info I think

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's also good to mention that it's an open source game and they do indeed plan to release it on Steam later.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Tbf, I didn't know about the steam release. But yeah it's also open source.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Wow, how did I not know about this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow Thanks! They also have a appimage for my fedora bazzite <3

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yup, that's awesome. The first time I played it, I was using a steam deck as a daily driver while waiting for a new laptop to ship. Grabbed the app image and it just worked!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

If you wanted an open-source streaming-economy RTS, I'd very quickly recommend Zero-K.

I hadn't even heard of BAR before, so I got something to try in the next few days.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depending on what you like about StarCraft...

The Warhammer 40k RTS games are great. Red alert is also in the same vein. I thoroughly enjoyed Halo Wars for a few hours.

If it's the base building and creating a death ball, Age of Empires games.

If it's just the base building, Against the Storm.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Halo Wars honestly just works imo. Both games. Like honestly on paper, everything about it sounds like it'd be a hit. And it kinda was; I feel like a lot of people ignored it because it wasn't a mainline Halo game. I know I did for a few years until I got a chance to play it, and loved it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are asking about a game that is widely considered the best in a genre. Everything else will feel different if not inferior.

With that disclaimer out of the way, Battle Aces and Stormgate are worth a look. A new take on the genre and a spiritual successor made by some of the developers that made StarCraft.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, Stormgate is definitely very Starcraft like, the team's connection to old SC shows through clearly. There are a few nice quality of life updates though in terms of hot keys for unit creation and such.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So that's a pretty interesting question, because you're asking for a modern RTS which doesn't quite exist. It's not that the RTS genre died, it's just kind of evolved into two separate paths based on what people enjoyed from those games.

For those that liked the fast action, APM, control of units, MOBAs have mostly filled that role.

For those that liked planning out and building a huge base, there are a bunch of base/empire building games.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Command and Conquer?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Battle Aces has been pretty fun. It's in beta now

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As a person who played almost every RTS games, I can easily say there are no alternatives for StarCraft. Old Blizzard was number 1.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I don't think any rts will match the perfection that was SC Broad Wars.

It's like Counterstrike 1.6. It was perfect and all games expanding off of that is just making me feel nostalgic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If only the map archives were organized properly. It would be cool of everyone uploaded their SCM and SCX and then dupeguru could run over it all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I still enjoy a game of Planetary Annihilation every other time, might not float your boat if you're looking for a much more classic RTS. But smashing moons to the enemy's base has never felt so awesome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Rimworld plays like a very very very slow rts lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Battle Aces has been pretty fun. It's in beta now

Made by ec SC2 devs. David Kim etc. Has been widely adopted by the pro SC2 scene

There's no base building, no build times for units, no build orders essentially. It's SC2 in essence, but boiled down to the essentials.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dune 2000 I think it was called. Late 90s IIRC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_2000

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Battle Realms

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Just off the top of my head for pve.

Always like supcom for multi-player problem is it slows down hard mid game.

Generals Shockwave mod is perfect but keeps dropping games.

Deserts of kharak is great but the AI is too easy once you understand the game and it had no mod support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

As far as RTS in general goes (C&C Generals), I really enjoy Age of Empires IV. There is argueably more diversity as there are more civs (15ish) than there are in Star Craft. And each civ has several viable builds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago