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Can anyone translate this? I think it's Ottoman Turkish, I could be wrong

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

yes this is in ottoman turkish.

top two lines: "bütün dünya işçileri birleşse rahmet dünyaya hakim olacaktır" translation: "if all the workers of the world unite, mercy will rule the world"

right middle is the number 12.

left middle is abbreviation ş.h. but i don't know what that stands for. the communist party at that time was sosyalist fırka so it would be s.f so i can't take another guess.

edit: fixed the last word.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your translation

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

no problem. it's a really cool find.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected]

Yes, it's Ottoman Turkish.

I am a Turk, btw.

Where did you get this? Etsy? Ebay?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I found in a antique shop, while visiting Xi'an, China.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Were you just there?

I'm going in 2025.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes, just came back. Xi'an is very beautiful. Also, lots of Muslims there so finding halal food wasn't a problem. And a lot of ancient places to explore

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I mean, I don't "plan" to go to Xi'an so far, but I've thought of it.

I want to go to Xinjiang.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I plan to go to Xi'an. Is that in Xinjiang?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More to the east. It's the traditional eastern terminus of the silk road, also often served as capital during history.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oho, nice

I should go there, but I want to prioritize Chongqing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good news! They're a 6 hour trip from one another on high speed rail, with one change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Not too shabby of a time... I might take it!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

There were Soviet Ottomans?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There were communist Turks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's true! Kaypakkaya!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but Kaypakkaya is the overrated one that only Westerners know.

(But what happened to him was horrible, no denying.)

But the communist movement in Turkey is powerful, historically, compared to other communist movements that didn't achieve full power. I'd say that places that have big communist movements but aren't AES is Nepal, India, and that kingdom in Africa that I forgot the name of...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who else would you recommend in Turkey?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Look into the TKP's history.

Especially in the lead-up to the 1980 coup.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

oh yeah

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

If you ever feel depressed in the Western core...remember there were communists in the Ottoman empire that likely lived through the collapse.