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What's the antithesis of Arrested Development, Firefly or The Big Lebowski? Those may never have 'found their audience' but over time seemed to recognised by everyone. What are the deep cuts that you liked but it feels like everyone has completely forgotten they even existed.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Dredd, highly praised by fan and critics; Also a recent one Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves no buzz but high praise overall.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Dredd had a really poor advertising campaign. I think the first trailer only came out a few weeks before it's release when for other films it's months in advance.

I think the first footage I saw was actually a VFX breakdown that somehow made it's way into YouTube but it didn't stay there long.

There was a big campaign to get a sequel and Dredd on Blu-ray rose to #1 in the Amazon sales charts.

One of the executive producers, Adi Shankar, explained in a YouTube video that he appreciated the effort but the big problem was the box office returns. Everyone who invested made a loss, so no one wanted to invest in a sequel.

Rebellion were going to make a Mega City One series which may have had appearances from Dredd occasionally but I think that project has stalled.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honor Among Thieves was so good. I couldn't stop geeking out over how much D&D was in it. They even cameo'd the freaking Animated Series party! It's nuts.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It's the first time I've unexpectedly felt, "Wow, that was so fun!" since maybe Zombieland or The Lego Movie. The definition of a "fun movie," it was so much better than I expected.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Mr Robot is a damn masterpiece and I don't think I've ever participated in or heard a verbal discussion about it. But whenever it pops up in a thread or comment section there's always tons of people giving it praise.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know the camera operator that shot Mr Robot. They created a completely new camera framing language. Breaking the norms and conventions. It really deserves more recognition than it got.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought nothing could top Breaking Bad, but then I watched Mr. Robot.

The creativity, cinematography and unique ideas in that are outstanding. The episode with almost no dialogue is particularly brilliant.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I watched the first season and found it cringe.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

THANK YOU. I couldn't get past the god-damned teenage angst.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Blade Runner 2049. Extremely highly rated, just wasn't popular enough

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Better Off Ted is still my favorite sitcom. Corporate came along and tried to pick up the mantle, but I still prefer Ted.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes! I was thinking of this when I wrote the question. I feel like it was great and just totally disappeared.

I kept thinking about it's parody ads when all those 'we're in this together' ads kept playing during the start of the pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I would upvote this fifty times if I could. Better Off Ted was an absolute gem.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not enough people understand how great of a show Bojack Horsman was.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Absolutely love that show. I kinda have to be in a good headspace to watch it though, cause it has definitely had a negative impact on my own depressive thoughts before. But that show can be so damn cathartic and just a great watch overall

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I really enjoyed Equilibrium (2002). Is it derivative of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451? Absolutely. But so was V for Vendetta.

It's a B level film that still packs a punch today, particularly in a dystopian era of politics. The message of learning to connect continues to be relevant in a hyper connected, but shallow relational landscape.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Stargate. Had a long run with good viewership and multiple series, but has had very little cultural impact compared to trek/wars. Sg1 can stand up to any trek series

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The Man from Earth is not forgotten, it has never been recognized. I've never seen such a great movie. The plot: a bunch of techers talking. That's it. But that talk is mindblowing.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The good place. It's fairly short and starts out more of a comedy but evolves into a real ethics lesson. One that a lot of people need to hear.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to throw out 2 series that were canceled early that I'm still salty about: The River that was on track to rival Lost in quality, and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles which is another case where Summer Glau got screwed. Lena Heady has said if SCC didn't get canceled, she wouldn't have gotten Game of Thrones, which hits a lot different now than 10 years ago when GoT was good.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I loved SCC, it was such a great show that didn't get the attention it deserved.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Little Miss Sunshine

Hilarious indie comedy. I’ve never heard of anyone disliking it, but it also almost never gets brought up.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

HBO's Rome

That show had great scripts, great acting, and great visuals. I can't think of one area where the show had a serious deficiency. It was the quality of Game of Thrones before Game of Thrones. It just never caught on. I give it a rewatch once every few years.

RIP Ray Stevenson. 13!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Black books is brilliant and wildly underrated. Dylan Moran as a misanthropic book shop owner with an idiot for a sidekick

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Co-created by Graham Linehan who also did Father Ted and The IT Crowd. Shows about misanthropic priests and IT dept guys with idiots for sidekicks. It's a winning formula.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Star Wars Galaxies. It really was really lightning in a bottle. No other game has come close to recreating the social player-driven sandbox experience that was SWG. This was the first MMORPG I played to feature a classless build system and I haven’t played another game which does it quite as well. Honourable mention goes to the Jump to Lightspeed expansion, truly the coolest expansion for any game I’ve ever experienced. We will never be able to recreate the experience of SWG again, the culture of gaming has changed too much. It was a game where you simply couldn’t solo the entire game or hang around with a dungeon finder or anything like that. You had to interact with other people - you had to kick back and hang out in bars together, you had to ask someone to help you change your hair colour or style, you had to ask doctors to heal you, or tailors to make clothes for you in a style you liked, or settle for off-the-rack fashions bought from player-owned stores. Players would also take the role of bounty hunters to hunt down criminal players for credits. You’d get to know a lot of the people you shared a server with, you’d remember who was fun to team up with, or who saved your ass, or who gave you some buffs, etc. and it really made the experience unforgettable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Shit, close to 10 years after we stopped playing, my wife was playing WOW and someone was all, "Icarii... from Corbantis? I bought so many weapons off you, yours were the best!"

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Deadwood.

I agree with the Mr. Robot take in this thread but nothing matches the infectious dialogue and energy that takes place throughout the entire Deadwood series. I never hear or see it talked about online or in my friend groups.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Battlestar Galactica. What a phenomenal series.

Edit: the 00's series, not the original. That might be good, but I haven't seen it.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Babylon 5. It’s not perfect by any means, but it’s a fantastic show, it was pretty popular back in the day, but since it ended it pretty much faded from memory for most people I think, compared to Stargate, for example.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like Children of Men (2006) doesn't get much recognition for being a chilling view of a future world or the respect it should with it's amazing long takes and excellent camera work. If possible watch the behind the scenes material about the car rig they built. It's so cool!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Death Note, specifically for non-anime folks. It's really the only anime that I think even anime haters can love.

While the quality is uneven, it's still the #37 show on IMDb last I checked, and most people have never even considered watching it.

No spoilers please, in case anyone who reads this decides to give it a try.

Also, Steins;Gate.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The first few Splinter Cell games should have had a more-lasting impact on gaming. Proper stealth gameplay in which lighting mattered for the first time (revolutionary), and the Spies vs. Mercs multiplayer still ranks among my favorite multiplayer games of all time. Then they made it into a (still good, but not the same) action series before letting it die completely.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Honestly, I’d say that Splinter Cell is considered to have had a larger impact on gaming than it really did. For example, you claim that Splinter Cell was the first game where lighting mattered - at the very least, Thief: The Dark Project featured that very prominently, four years earlier, but I doubt that was even the first.

Splinter Cell basically just copied Thief and Metal Gear Solid’s homework and changed it up a bit, I’d say it’s inferior to both games, and yet is often considered to be one of the best games ever made.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Anarchy Online. The first sci-fi MMO, it was basically an unofficial Dune Online when it first released. Lots of very cool concepts, and is one of the deepest MMORPGs out there - personally the only MMO I know of with more depth is EVE Online. There are mysteries about the game mechanics that the player base don’t have an answer to even 22 years after the game’s release.

Comparable to EverQuest, Asheron’s Call, Dark Age of Camelot and even Star Wars Galaxies, all of which have a pretty thriving server emulation communities, nothing like that has ever really materialised for Anarchy Online, and while the official servers are still running, it seems like it’s only a matter of time before they’re turned off once and for all.

If you want to check it out, you can play the base game for free as long as you like with no real downsides except lack of access to expansion content. It’s very quiet though, compared to the hay day, and the economy is hilariously broken, but still an interesting peek into 23 year old MMORPG design.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Beyond good and evil.

It's sales were poor but the reviews were great. A fantastic adventure game with a great story and a world that felt so incredibly lived in. It had a bunch of interesting mechanics that focused on stealth rather than confrontation.

Playing it now the scope feels pretty small but it's still a very tight experience.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Orphan Black.

Intriguing show that entertained throughout, backed by one of the greatest acting performances I've ever seen in tv by Tatiana Maslany.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Heroes. The first season was so damn good and then the last writers strike completely killed it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Game Cube- Eternal Darkness

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There was a string of time between 2006 and 2009 where there were AMAZING new long format TV shows coming on... and promptly dying on the vine after a year due to bad advertising or ratings chasing.

Kings was a great TV show that deserved 4 more seasons.

Jericho Was an amazing show, that got dumped by Network after the first season.. and the fans were so infuriated that they crowdsourced funding to send over twenty tons of nuts to CBS in protest, Which forced them to greenlight a second season for like..5 or 6 episodes (first season was 22 episodes, as comparison) and left it hanging on a painfully huge cliffhanger. before cancelling it again.. Netflix even came forward and offered to buy the series and continue it on Netflix (Which all the actors were 100% on board with), and as a final FUCK YOU to the fans, CBS refused. They hated the show, tried to fuck over its second season hard, and hated the fans... and still refused to sell the rights to someone who would let it flourish.

God, typing this out has made me realize how irrationally angry I still am at CBS over the absolute fuckery they pulled with that show that I cant even think of the other shows at the moment.

Go watch Jericho. Its still a fucking awesome show, despite how much the c-suite hated it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vinland Saga taught me that being kind makes me a stronger man and having no hate for anyone, even those who have wronged me will make me a happier person.

It definitely did make a very big impact on many people, and it's where all the "i have no enemies" memes originate from. But I do wish It had an even larger impact than it did as it's an answer to the constant fighting and arguments that has taken over many of our lives.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Person of Interest - it not only anticipated NSA mass surveillance (with some SciFi elements but anyway) but also ethical questions about AI, the singularity of human intelligence and human nature in general. All while being a well told crime show with comedic and heartwarming moments.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Network wasn't underrated but has felt more relevant every decade but has been talked about less and less.

Showgirls tells a compelling story about poverty, fame, power, misogyny, and abuse. This film is severely underrated but also it is forgotten by most people who do not go looking for the lowest rated movies to watch ironically.

The second season of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex was really good and I find the story centered around a refugee crisis to be a much more compelling one. I feel like this season gets talked about less than the first and the movies, which are generally seen as masterpieces.

You didn't list books but I wanted to mention that Player Piano is one of the most precient books I have read and was written back in the 50s. Vonnegut is of course a well known and regarded writer but you'll rarely see his first novel topping lists even among just his own works, and so it doesn't get read and discussed as much as it should.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again,

The Knick

Only two seasons and it ended before it ever had a chance to get bad. The acting is phenomenal, sets are well designed, the background music choices are very unique for what you would expect in that time period. But it works! Cannot recommended it enough! If you can find it or “acquire” online I think it would be worth your time.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All the damn Holocaust documentaries.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Great question btw, OP

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