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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Great to see another map with satellite images, besides Google Maps and Microsofts Bing Maps.

Now they just have to stop blocking Linux based on the user agent. If I set it to Firefox on Windows, it works, but not if set UA to Linux. A major feature of browsers is that web devs don't have to care about the underlying OS...

[–] possiblylinux127 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've been contributing a lot to OSM for my local area, and have added a couple dozen businesses, and updated a dozen more. It's pretty easy, and I've really been liking OrganicMaps on mobile for directions and whatnot.

For others: if OSM kinda sucks in your area, you're not SOL, you can add whatever it is you're missing. It's easy and IMO pretty fun. Give it a try!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The downside is it's often out of date with business hours, or ones that have moved or closed down, and new businesses are usually missing.

I try and edit stuff when I can but it's such a complex process that requires reading the wiki and a bunch of forum threads to 'do it right'.

If they had a quick and easy editor that was more streamlined and did not allow you to do things incorrectly, then it would be a lot easier.

[–] possiblylinux127 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is it possible to edit specific existing business info with streetcomplete? When I use it just pops up some random items to do.

[–] possiblylinux127 4 points 1 month ago

You can choose what to do

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can. It just show you everything that need additional info. You can just choose to move the map to the shop you want to edit hours and do that. You can also filter the StreetComplete missions in the settings if you want to only update business hours and description.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ooh ok, I'll play around with it some more.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Huh? OSM is not a maps app. And this is completely unrelated to browser and OS support. OSM is a maps repository.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

You can browse the maps of the "repository" via openstreetmap.org in your browser. There are multiple apps using the "repository", like Gnome Maps for Linux or OsmAnd on Android.... And many other apps: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop

What exactly is the problem?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I've just found out about the about:compat page in Firefox. It looks there's a few dozen pages with user agent overrides in latest Firefox, some seem to be overridden to chrome. If you open a ticket on bugzilla, they might add an override to fix your environment too.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Doesn't work on Firefox for Linux lol

Why would they deliberately block Firefox on Linux??

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It works perfectly fine with user agent switcher. Apple just blocked Linux to be assholes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

as is tradition with companies nowadays for some reason

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

blocked on linux? yet another reason to never give them money

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

blocked on linux? yet another reason to never give them money

It’s still a beta, they will likely add support before release.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Adding support? It's a web site. If it works on one OS, it should work on the others automatically with few exceptions. Otherwise, it's probably a bug in Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

and if you click the See Supported Browsers link, you can see that Firefox isn't even listed there...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

it was for me; only on mac and windows though

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why is a website restricted to certain browsers? This isn't 2005.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

We are at this stage again. First „Works only with IE6“, now „Works only with Chromium and WebKit“.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right? It's very simple. If the site doesn't work I close it and never look back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Individual boycotts might do nothing and the situation becomes worse over time because of network and monopolistic effects. There might be an end to the open internet, requiring a specific browser to visit crucial websites. Or you could get DMCA'd if you use an ad blocker or plugin to alter the function of a website.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't work on Firefox for Android

Not sure why I'm bothering to check when there's other superior options that already work though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Doesn't work on chrome for android as far as I can tell, or not this beta site at least. System webview issue likely.

[–] possiblylinux127 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Funny enough, Apple Maps uses some OSM data

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And on mobile, use Organic Maps. It downloads Open Street Map data so it works completely offline, no internet is required once you download whatever regions you need. There are monthly updates for the map data and the app is open source and ad-free.

[–] possiblylinux127 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Plus the routing algorithm is transparent and doesn't route you because of environmental reasons or third party advertisers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

OSM isn't a website or a web app. It's a repository of map data. Problem is, there is no good browser web app that uses OSM data.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

And unfortunately OSM can be incomplete in many small cities and rural areas :(

I recommend StreetComplete to anyone that wants to help complete OSM in their local areas.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OSM actually does have a website where you can freely browse the map, I’m not really sure what you are saying here. The main purpose of OSM is to provide data for other maps but openstreetmap.org is a fully functional map website

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Openstreetmap.org is a blurry mess. Navigation is shit. Functionality is pretty bare-bones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s because, like I said, the main purpose is to provide data for other maps and services, but saying an OSM map website doesn’t exist is very silly. I find OSM.org to work fine for me, there’s third party OSM mobile apps you can use

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yup. It's great for adding data and browsing the map, just don't browse the map while in edit mode (it really sucks on my machine).

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 1 month ago

"Good" is subjective

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Firefox on iOS

Not a Linux issue.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't iOS Firefox just a Safari reskin? Why wouldn't it work there

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because it doesn’t even work in safari, also on iOS 18 DB5 it just opens the app version.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They said there would be no mobile support in the press release.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It didnt before?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Those won't can access it from Firefox on Linux, use User-Agent Switcher add-on as a workaround.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nope, doesn't seem to be available at least for the moment

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I appreciate this