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Anthony Albanese continues to reject calls to make even a sanitised version of the assessment public

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a lot of "it's probably concealed for a reason" type posts that I don't think I'd be seeing if this was the LNP.

Also how can Australians trust the government to make national security laws if they aren't informed on national security issues?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In a true democracy there would be no secrecy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I can understand the need for some secrecy, since we still have to deal with other countries etc... But otherwise I agree, you should have to have a pretty good reason for censoring government reports entirely.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I’m not too surprised. Says it contains assessments of risks to the country and there some certain countries near Australia I could see doing certain things to the other countries in the immediate area for certain resources (nudge nudge). And I don’t think the Australian gov would want that to be public for fear of intensifying already tense relations with certain countries.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It probably mentioned the 60 million or so Bangladeshis that will be looking for dry land to live on.

When this really kicks off there will likely be war between India and China over water in the Himalayas if not Taiwan to distract the Chinese general population.

They have already lost a lot of their crops this year due to flooding

Massive movements of millions of people seeking habitable land. ( Do you know anywhere near Asia with lots of empty space?)

Agricultural collapse, water wars and disruption worldwide…

It will make the boat people nonsense of the past 2 decades look like a nice walk in the park.

So nothing to see here really.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the Russian taiga is mostly empty space

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It might be once the permafrost melts but the methane released by this event will be another catastrophic milestone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is our climate going to be attractive at that point?

Between heat waves and fires I would guess we will be a fairly unpleasant environment also.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There will be a lot of climate disruption in Australia no doubt, (already happening with fires and floods and rising seawater temperatures) but at least a lot of land won’t be under water or destroyed by high salinity like the Ganges-Brahmaputra-Meghna Delta.

2015 article from a quick google search….

https://blogs.worldbank.org/endpovertyinsouthasia/bangladesh-challenges-living-delta-country

The biggest natural defence Australia has is its hostile deserts to the north west and centre but when 1 or 2 or 30 million people decide they have to move to survive that won’t stop them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm convinced it's for a good reason, but wait till the conspiracy theorists crawl out and claim it's secret because the government found out climate change isn't real.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I don't get why conspiracy theorists need to see this paper when they already Do tHeIR oWn REsEaRcH...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sky News are probably going to claim that the voice to parliament will cause catastrophic climate events

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if this article is about the probability of climate induced World War III and publishing the article could increase the risk of war.

I'm willing to trust the judgement of people who've actually read the report on wether or not it should be published.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or it could risk him not getting re-elected...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is far more likely imo. I don't trust a single politician on the planet, let alone in Australia, to do anything beneficial for the population without some ulterior motive. The best among us don't go into politics.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

If those are the stakes we’re showing little sign of acting on our emissions in accordance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think it's much more likely that it just shows that climate change is important and the government has been mismanaging the situation so they want to save face by burying it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Australian government is not only refusing to release its secret report on how the climate crisis will fuel national security threats – it won’t even say when it was completed.

In a new response to Senate questions on notice, the prime minister confirmed the ONI’s climate assessment was finalised “within the last 12 months”.

Five other questions from the Greens’ defence spokesperson, David Shoebridge, were answered with an identical response: “The content and judgments of the assessment are classified.”

A single page of that 80-page climate statement was devoted to national security, saying global heating would “increasingly exacerbate risks” as “geopolitical tensions mount about how to respond”.

Both Pocock and Shoebridge proposed Senate motions to order the government to produce key documents, but the major parties combined to defeat them on 10 August.

In 2021, the US intelligence community released a report that warned: “Intensifying physical effects will exacerbate geopolitical flashpoints, particularly after 2030, and key countries and regions will face increasing risks of instability and need for humanitarian assistance.”


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