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GIMP 3.0 has been more than one decade in the making as the port from GTK2 to GTK3, also transitioning away from Python 2 to Python 3 support, and a wealth of other improvements from the UI to lower down into enhancing this open-source Photoshop alternative.

The GIMP project announced on X/Twitter today that they have entered the string freeze for this much anticipated release.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Just in time!

Preparing for GTK 5

(Trying to be funny here, don't downvote too much!)

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Gimp 4.0 is on schedule for a 2040 release at this point

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Now using gtk4

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

You think you just told a joke when in reality...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

The Gimp Tool Kit !

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

okay I'll bite, what does "string freeze" mean here?

[–] [email protected] 137 points 3 weeks ago

They've committed to not changing any displayed text ("strings"), so that translators have time to translate everything.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It means the maintainers have frozen their thongs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck yeah! Go GIMP! Also announced on Mastodon fwiw:

https://floss.social/@GIMP/112995553132226800

I'm super excited about 3.0 🪇

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Place your bets, are we getting GIMP 3 before 2025?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 weeks ago

If we're in string freeze, it's probably within a few weeks. They're in bug squashing and translations mode now. I'd take that bet.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm on Slackware so I won't be getting it this decade 😅

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, it's just another tarball to compile and install, right? What do you mean lots of dependencies? Oh, well, I guess there is Krita :)

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

port from GTK2 to GTK3

Migrating from an already rooten toolkit to a toolkit that is dead since a few years.

Nice.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They have been migrating to GTK3 since before GTK4 was out.

I am sure they will stay behind but future porting should be easier.

That said, non-GNOME GTK apps seem to be considering sticking with GTK3 anyway ( to avoid libadwaita ).

https://linuxmint-developer-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/xapps.html

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not as dead as you think, but yeah...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah ... I just hope they're now being able to decouple the UI and the core and make it easier to migrate to more recent UI toolkits.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gimp has been falling behind more and more. Back when 2.0 came out it wasn't as bad yet, but it got worse as years went on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Even better when we remind ourselves that GTK means "Gimp ToolKit" :)

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

can they unfreeze the name?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

I know people like it, but I agree.

And as silly as it sounds, I think the name is a big part of why businesses haven't ever wanted to touch the project or invest in it.

Imagine telling your average upper management guy or board member that you want your workers to use software called gimp. They're probably not gonna want to hear you out.

Anecdotally I know of a local NHS practice that refused to use GIMP, and was even sceptical of other subsequent suggestions of other FOSS due to the terrible impression they got from the GIMP name during a pitch to use more FOSS.

I get it's their identity, their project. Nobody has the right to dictate the name but them. But it's also fair to point out that they probably shot themselves in the foot by giving their software a juvenile and weirdly fetishy name.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why doesn't someone just fork it and change the name?

Like, I dunno, "Super Human Image Treatment" or "Consistently Lovely Image Treatment Oriented for Real Imaging Stars"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Actually, someone did, changing the name to "Glimpse". They announced it as an explicit fork that would continue development under the new name.

As far as I know, that's as far as they got.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

To be fair, if the fork sole purpose is to just re-label the software and make people that have irks because of the name start to use the software, who are we to judge?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Uh huh. Yet somehow the NHS has no issue plastering its name next to Virgin.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They won't. It's an old topic and they are clear about not changing the name. Anyone having a problem can fork and rename the project. But it seems not to be a big issue that nobody wants to do it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I believe that there is a project that aims to do just this but I can't remember its name.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

If you can't remember the name, it was probably not a good rename. "Glimpse" was the name, as the other user noted. ;-) On a more serious note, I actually liked the name Glimpse. But they did more than just renaming the project. They had plans to make it very different from Gimp too. So it probably died because of being too ambitious.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Glimpse, but it died in 2021.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

I just flipped through the introduction of a GIMP book that the authors hoped 3.0 would be out so they could cover it but ultimately based the book on 2.6 due to delays. It's copyright 2012, apparently something (didn't) happen.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

No better default gui?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

we really got kde 6 before gimp 3

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn't this the version where they pinky promised there will be CMYK support?

<ducks, runs>

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

From https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/ for GIMP 3.0:

Space invasion (work in progress):

Various color management improvements, CMYK support (not as core image format, but import/export and picking/choosing/viewing)…

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Does anyone know if non destructive editing will be possible with 3.0 or if its a feature for the next ten years?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Will there be a big party where we can be baked

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

There will be grilled bell peppers.

[–] possiblylinux127 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

hope gimp becomes better yeah ik it is not liked that much

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