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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/nommabelle on 2024-08-20 23:00:34+00:00.
We'll be having a debate between r/OptimistsUnite and r/Collapse in 1-2 months. We think it'd be insightful and interesting to visit each other's perspectives and engage in some good-spirited dialogue. We'll be shaping the debate around "What is human civilization trending towards?" You can find our prior debates with r/Futurology here.
Each subreddit will select three debaters and three alternates (in the event some cannot make it). Anyone may nominate themselves to represent r/collapse by posting in this thread explaining why they think they would be a good choice.
You may also nominate others, but they must post in this thread to be considered. You may vote for others who have already posted by commenting on their post and reasoning. The moderators will then select the participants and reach out to them directly.
The debate itself will be a sticky post in one sub and linked to via another sticky to the other sub. The debate date and time is TBD, participants will be polled after being selected to determine what works best for everyone. We'd ask participants be present in the thread for at least 1-2 hours from the start of the debate, but may revisit it for as long as they wish afterwards. Each participant will be asked to write an opening statement for their subreddit.
Both sides' debaters will put forward their initial opening statements and then all participants may reply with counter arguments within the post to each other's statements. General members from each community will be invited to observe, but allowed to post in the thread as well. The representatives for each subreddit will be flaired so they are easily visible throughout the thread. We'll create a post-discussion thread in r/collapse to discuss the results of the debate after it is finished.
Let us know if you would like to participate! You can help us decide who should represent r/collapse by nominating others here and voting on those who respond in the comments below.
We are also compiling a short (~1hr total) introduction to collapse for debaters to review before engaging. The same will be provided by r/OptimistsUnite, with the expectations any collapseniks engaging has reviewed their material. If you have any suggestions, please include them below as well (perhaps in separate comments from debater suggestions). If it's a subsection of content (such as timestamp 1:05-10:32 of a video), please indicate that. Such as:
- reading: Overview, Primary Pressures, and Stages of Awareness from wiki (15 minutes)
- watching: The Great Simplification (32 minutes)
- watching: Exponential Growth Explained (3 minutes)
- watching: Collapse : the only realistic scenario? and English dubbed (28 minutes)
And lastly, please be mindful of reddit rules, particularly around brigading: don't engage in their sub with malicious intent. We will expect everyone during the debate to remain good faithed and respectful to keep it friendly and informal.