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The super privacy-focused third-party ROM, GrapheneOS now officially supports the Google Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

that was fast!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Does it receive all 16GB of RAM or is the 3GB still locked away?

Is Gemini Nano supported?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There isn't a chance in hell you're getting Gemini Nano outside of the stock ROM.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because it's proprietary software. They have an open source model (based off it) called Gemma but Gemini Nano is super locked down. There aren't even public APIs for 3rd party developers to use it through the OS yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An enormous portion of Google's products are proprietary and yet still made freely available to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

None of those are cutting edge AI models that could be ripped open and examined if people had access to the files. It's not just an app or something, there are internal trade secrets at risk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one is asking for access to the source code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is basically what you get if you have direct access to the LLM file(s).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then thousands of people already have that on their Pixel 9s and 8s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Locked away in the stock ROM. Almost certainly encrypted at rest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Google is a monopolistic piece of shit and they try to lock you in to their shitty, privacy-invasive ecosystem. In my opinion it's like a hundred times worse than Apple. Only Google hardware (phones and tablets) are worth buying, but only for the strong hardware security features, definitely not for the stupid proprietary software they come with by default.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In my opinion it's like a hundred times worse than Apple

LOL are you high?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yea try to run an aftermarket OS on an iPhone and then we'll talk

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not to mention that even with the stock OS you can disable most if not all sniffing components. Of course Google still has root but they don't put their typically don't embed obfuscated stuff because they don't need to.

Note that I'm not arguing that Google isn't privacy invasive "because you can turn it all off." The user shouldn't have to go through this trouble to recover their privacy and the user experience definitively degrades if you do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Definitely high. It's pretty funny how people manufactured this privacy perception and projected it over Apple. Apple was happy to capitalize on it and keep it going. Reminds me of the security perception over BlackBerry. Hot air either way.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Who knows. We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app and give it NPU permissions.

The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Who knows

Presumably the GOS devs. And anyone who owns a P9x.

We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app

Yeah, that's why I ask. Some of this stuff works already. The on-device AI in Gboard is incredible. As is the spam detection in GMessages.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fuck Gemini. Why would you want that piece of shit on your phone?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Having recorded and summarized phone calls is a pretty damn useful feature...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why people here are discussing Gemini nano, which can run locally on your phone and not in the cloud (like the "normal" gemini model)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 1 month ago (18 children)

You might be able to get ollama running

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