Daily reminder to defederate from and block threads.net (and optionally all instances that do not do the same).
this post was submitted on 29 Aug 2024
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Exactly. Proudly presented by https://fedipact.veganism.social/ and https://fedipact.online/why among others.
You can read the human rights abuses that meta is facilitating above.
So... Instances like lemmy.world, that this is posted to?
yes, I'm federated with them as well, but shit like this is why I dislike them being so big. In the end all the smaller instances can either have strong morals and integrity, or have access to the largest amount of content in the fediverse, but not both.
Ehh mastodon and lemmy don't see a ton of cross talk. Threads is mainly going to affect mastodon instances.
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Maybe we should do a reverse embrace-extend-extinguish where we open everything up until the point that they start introducing ads to enshittify the platform. Then after that great migration say goodbye to them
They can't place ads in your feeds.
they technically could do this by representing ads with posts.
Why would you subscribe to those? Or are you claiming they would post ads as if they are from a user? In the latter case - the EU would shut them down before they even had time to deploy that.
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Most platforms (especially reddit, instagram, twitter) moved ads from ad-dedicated spaces, to authentic-seeming posts, that are actually ads.
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That’s exactly the point. There are a lot of users on Threads who might be happy with the Fediverse. Threads will undoubtedly need a put in ads in their app/instance, their enshittification is inevitable. If it becomes easy for users to move over to more friendly Fediverse instances, that is a win.
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Defedding from threads always seems strange to me. Everyone says it's to protect your data from meta. But they can already get your data. Everything on the fediverse is public. They already have your data.
It’s not about the data, but the community. Just like how Google killed IRC, big techs are always trying to embrace, extend and extinguish the services.
@Dirk @MrScottyTay Also I think that one should ask the question, what Meta could do with the data and what it is doing with the data of their users. For their users they use the usage data to present them a feed that the users appreciate. Also they use it to place ads inside of their apps. Also they use the data to serve you ads outside of their system on ad networks that use data from Meta.
All of this is technically not possible for Fediverse users.
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A is defederated from Threads, but federates with B. And B federates with Threads. Now Meta can cash out on your data via B.
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Who's the artist of the image? I like the art style
Also the scared Lemmy and mastodon :( I feel bad for them
David Revoy.
Oh sick I didn't realize it was his work, nice, thank you!
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That same Meta that performs emotional manipulation experiments on its users without informing them or receiving their consent? No, thank you!
To be fair, this is describing all advertising.
THE ENSHITIFICATION OF EVERYTHING MUST NOT INCLUDE THE FEDIVERSE PLEASE
thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Fuck off Zuck, you're not welcome here.
Fuck the Zucc
This won't affect the Fedipact instances like dbzer0, right?
Nope. But world agreed to it and this could hurt the fediverse in the overall since world is the majority
Yeah that's the reason why I moved away from lemmy.world.
Same here. Fucking sell outs
Embrace, extend, extinguish.
That's not how ActivityPub works.
On a technical level, no. You're right. It would not be possible to capture the protocol entirely. But meta has serious cash to spend on marketing Threads. If they can capture enough of the ActivityPub market and were to collab with Bluesky and use their protocol (I forget the name), or make their own, it's only a matter of time before the drop activitypub and force users either to join threads or lose access to their users.
Threads and Bluesky are kind of an existential threat to ActivityPub given Meta and Twitter's track record with Open Graph, bootstrap, and public api's.
But why?
Simply put, there aren’t a lot of us, we don’t like them, and we aren’t particularly nice people, even to people we don’t dislike a priori.
It seems like a poor business decision.
The largest social media operator in the world had to adopt open source concepts and ActivityPub in order to compete. I see this as a huge win.
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