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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I posted this through Jerboa and filled out the alt text field accordingly.

Could you give me some feedback on it, is it visible for you? I could only see the alt text through a long press on the image in the web client...

EDIT: ofc simply adding it to the post body as well is a solution, but ATM I'm interested in the "integrated" alt text field and how visible that is for others

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm using Voyager, and I can't see any alt text. Long pressing does nothing, and obviously I can't hover on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tap on the picture, you'll see it on the bottom. Tap on that text area and the rest will show.

Formatting seems all goofed up, but it works.

My opinion on the meme aside.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nope. Tapping the picture just opens it with no text here. Voyager on Android.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's what I'm using as well, Voyager on Android.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm on the same Voyager version, but tapping the picture just gives me the picture with no text.

I took a screenshot, but I can't see a way to embed it - never mind, closing my keyboard gave me the image, attachment, and formatting options back. The screenshot should be here:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see it. I'd report it to the dev, would be good for them to know why it isn't working for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's a bit odd, this image is showing for me, but others that I've tried to embed in the same way haven't shown up in the past.

I'll report it to them 👍

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

hmm :/

was able to get this in the web client

mb additionally putting it in the post body would be a good idea for future posts?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

mb additionally putting it in the post body would be a good idea for future posts?

I've seen that a few times on other posts. If there's text in the body already, the alt text has been separated, but I don't think there's a standard yet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Ironically, on Jerboa I don't see any alt text.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Works perfectly for me accessing an mbin instance through my browser. There's an "alt" button on the bottom right of the image that displays it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'm on the web on computer, and I see the alt text when I hover over the image.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I don't see it by default on Sync but if I go into the menu and click view image then the alt text is there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I am on Jerboa, where is the alt text? Is it some submenu?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They say it because it makes them feel better. Deep down they know that their vote most likely means nothing within a system where the duopoly will never allow their power to be voted away. They say things like this to quell their own feelings of powerlessness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Abstaining from voting won't fix the duopoly though. What it will do is keep a fascist from power.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They're right though. Voting and organizing are independent actions. You can not vote and not organize, not vote and organize, vote and not organize, or vote and organize. The liberal wasn't going to organize no matter what, but at least they voted. If you're organizing, you can vote, too.

"Don't vote because you organizing is better" is a stupid propaganda line designed to help Trump win.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Or made by delusional accelerationist leftists.

Or made by leftists, who see the left as a "closed-gate community", who also don't organize besides the few reading nights with other theory nerds.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Same energy as, "why don't you become massively rich and then change the system from the inside..." My step dad says that all the time when suggesting I get a job in a huge corporation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

smth smth about the unity of the cockroach and the chicken happening in the belly of the chicken smth smth

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

This is the plot to Golden Wind

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In Canada, there used to be Residential School. My granny went to one. They were pretty horrific to say the least. There were people, at the time, who thought entering them and reforming from within was what to do.

Of course, in reality, the only morally correct option was abolition and - eventually - that's what happened. They had some other levers to pull on the oppression machine like starlight tours and the 60s scoop and so on, but Residential School had only one morally correct position and it was not "reforming from within"

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago

That's the "organize, don't vote" energy

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

All the while the overton window gradually shifts to the far right. We're at the point where the country is funding a literal genocide but libs still refuse to organize.

I'd say they'd only start if Red Man is doing it instead of Blue Man, but even that's a stretch.

@Awoo put it betterFor the revleft participation in the system is endorsement of it.

You can't tell people to vote in one election and then tell people that actually it needs to be overthrown and think that's going to happen 5 years later.

At some point or another you just have to commit to it being broken and build your movement based entirely on the fact that it is broken and can not be supported in any way whatsoever.

You are not convincing anyone that there is a need for revolution by telling them that actually there is a reason to participate in the system that you want revolution against. Maybe that passes among very well educated theory-heads but it does not work when you exit theory spaces and start talking to the masses.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

These shitlibs will also go out of their way to defend this genocidal pig online instead of spending that time going out and organizing to take direct action.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

And you’ve done what exactly?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Actually organizing perhaps? Anarchists I know irl aren't shills for blue maga at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was in the streets protesting police brutality. I was in the ballot box making sure leftist parties get federal funding and ballot status. I was in the gun store making sure I am prepared to defend myself against right wing and liberal terrorism.

What the fuck have you done?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I was in the streets protesting police brutality. I was in the ballot box making sure leftist parties get federal funding and ballot status. I was in the gun store making sure I am prepared to defend myself against right wing and liberal terrorism.

LOL, no you fucking weren't. That shit is hilarious.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Typed furiously

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

There's this Unix command yes that repeatedly prints "yes" to the terminal. Well, the GOP is basically the no command.

(I know, I know, please don't explain the syntax of the yes command. It ruins the joke.)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

Not defend blue maga online probably

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

What about the final step?

-harm actually increased

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't know why the gigachad is part of the meme though...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a relatively common new take on the format. Adds some irony

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

exactly

it is the ironic subversion

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Not sure I get the point of this, why wouldn't liberals be happy with liberal poster children like Harris? She's who they're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Combine all of the issues together and figure out which candidate moves the needle in the direction you need the most. In this case to me, Harris moved the needle in the direction I want, while I disagree with some of her points specifically, like Israel support.

Trump just breaks the needle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Harris will move the needle to the right, or at the very best, merely slow down the rate at which the needle moves to the right. The Toupee will pull the needle off and stab people with it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm voting for the lesser evil, again, but it is extremely disheartening.