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I need an Android device for archival purposes, it has several requirements and I would appreciate any suggestions. I've done some research myself, but I would appreciate it maybe you know of something I haven't discovered.

Requirements:

  • Must fit inside this Faraday pouch, or a different one that is of a similar price, and is both water and fire proof
  • Must support an open OS (Degoogled, rooted Android ROM or Linux - both support touch interfaces, Kiwix, and storing and viewing files)
  • at least 256GB internal storage to store the files
  • at least 8GB RAM for running local AI models, preferably nearer 16GB
  • Good battery life, since it will stay inside the pouch most of the time and I don't want to have to take it out to charge it every day
  • As cheap as possible

I have no other requirements, it doesn't even have to have a camera, let alone a good one.

Thanks for all your help!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It will make the search even harder, but I'd recommend to add "removable battery" to the list.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yep that's what i was thinking. He would have a exploded battery in few years rather than a archival phone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could you extend on the "archival" parts a little? What would your daily(?) use look like?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Storing Wikipedia (using Kiwix), various media files (TV shows, movies, books), an LLM (using Layla Lite if Android, Jan if Linux), Stable Diffusion (SDAI if Android, Krita with AI Diffusion if Linux), and if there's enough space left some games, and then putting it in the case so it's safe in the event of an EMP/Solar flare

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Used pixel from swappa.com and install graphene os . can have all that for under $200

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which model would you recommend?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pixel 7 comes in right at 200 on swappa and has 8gb ram. Pixel 7 pro has 12gb and is around $50 more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If “rooted” is a requirement, then this won't work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You can root graphene

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

GrapheneOS can be rooted, though they don't recommend it as it's bad for security. For an archival device I imagine security isn't a big concern.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Get an SBC with a battery backup

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you meant Single Board Computer, that seems like a whole class of devices. What specific model would you recommend?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Raspberry pi would be a good place to start.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just use any cheap one that you can find that runs Linux well. There's 100s of them I'm sure you'll find your pick

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure I'll find one with my memory, storage, and size requirements? And I didn't specifically list that I wanted a touchscreen and chassis rather than a naked motherboard, but I do indeed want that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why do you want a mobile device specifically?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It should be able to move around, if that's what you mean, easily, as a desktop wouldn't fit in the pouch or be simple to use. I'd prefer a touchscreen so I dont have to put a keyboard in the pouch, but it doesn't have to be a phone. It could be a small tablet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You'll have a hard time running AI on relatively affordable mobile devices

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, I can run it on my moto g73 that cost £200 and has 8GB RAM. It's slow, but I can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If it’s not a phone why does it need to be in the pouch?

Actually just what the fuck are you trying to do “archival” wise that needs AI and for it to be in a faraday cage?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I want a device with lots of information on it, a couple of AI models, and a simple and intuitive way to use them that will be safe in the pouch if something happens to my other devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You'd do well by looking into the higher-end Fairphone 5.