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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Your boss did not give you vacation days. Your government/union did.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

That's not strictly true. In the US there is in most states NO requirements for paid leave outside of a few protected types. But not vacation or sick. And we also are largely not unionized. We still have time off albeit MUCH less than Europeans and such.

Though I'd argue the norm of having any paid time off is a byproduct of labor/union battles in the past.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We're given just enough scraps to avoid mass unionization. That's because the last time it happened we got The New Deal. This time it'll be the Economic Bill of Rights. The leftist platform hasn't changed for 80 years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Would be nice if there were more voices calling for democracy in the workplace. That would change so many things and make concentration of wealth and political corruption much more difficult.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bullshit, neither are true for most people in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Tell me you work in the US without telling me you work in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 month ago (7 children)

My current boss is by far the best one I've ever had.

It's me.

I've also got a great employee. That's me as well.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but the sexual harassment never stops!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Goes to HR:

"My boss grabbed my dick and shook the piss out of it in the bathroom! Then he made me go into a stall and wiped my ass to check if that risky fart he had noticed earlier was indeed just a fart!"

"No shit?"

"None!"

Then he sits down and makes himself an award certificate for best personal hygiene and another for most caring boss and wonders if talking to himself really means he's crazy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

HR: "You know what? Promotion!"

"For me or the boss?"

HR: "does it matter?"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't know. My office moves on 4 wheels and is full of tools. She's the one pulling the pranks on me and they're never good - just expensive.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I also choose this guy’s boss

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I've heard from friends who are self employed that this is a double edged sword. When you have an employer and take vacation, it feels like you've earned it and are taking time off at the expense of your employer. But when you're self employed it feels like you're just not getting paid.

One of my friends didn't take any time off for something like 5 years before realizing how incredibly bad that was for him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Are these people related? I smell nepotism

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I'm currently at my best job, and it's because I have a union who can tell the boss to fuck himself for me.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've got 9 weeks of vacation saved up, and I must take it you say?

Ok, I'll see you in 9 weeks!

What do you mean, 9 week is too long to be gone? Make up your mind!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In my younger days I witnessed this conversation

Guy was basically Brent (if you know you know) for a huge project. So on the 2st of Dec our boss phoned him and said he had 4 weeks to take before jan 1st. Brent's responce was cool see you next year and was told no I can't let you do that

We just looked at eacother in total amused confusion

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Was it me? Because I had that conversation back in '10 or '11. I ended up taking most of it off then took off the rest after the project "off the books" (but with an email paper trail because I've been burned before).

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (11 children)

I'll never understand this. I regularly encourage my staff to use their PTO and only deny requests if multiple people want overlapping days. Even then, if we can rearrange the schedule to make it work, we will.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

See, you have morals and empathy.

Most managers and owners don't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Most managers and owners in US don't.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

IT manager of more than a decade here. Vacation days are earned. They're part of your pay. If you're not taking vacation days, you may as well be not cashing a paycheck. That's unacceptable.

If several folks request off the same day I'll gently ask if anyone is willing to swap. If they're not willing or able, it's OK. I'm paid more and I will work the overtime needed to cover them, because they earned it and it's their time. Period. The company will survive a few days of less stellar work so that my guys and gals can live their life and work a job where they feel confident that they're taken care of.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

So glad my work has sick days too. Mental health is a good enough reason to use one and you don’t even need to use a reason. I do my best to show up for important things but I am so thankful I can call in sick or use a vacation day any time I want for the most part….

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

your boss does not give them to you, it is your right (possibly only at a minimal level too)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In civilised countries yes. In the US that minimum (federally at least) is 0.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At my work if I don't book at least 75% of my holiday days by like a month after renewal my boss starts to really moan at me.

The meme must be an American thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

You in Germany? There is some kind of tax thing, so it costs money if people don't take there holidays in the year itself, so companies are mostly quite keen with you raking all holidays.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

UK. But it's actually a German company. Everywhere I've worked has been pushy about you using your holiday though (managers obviously don't want it to hit the end of the year and suddenly everyone wants to use it instead of loosing it) but the 75% almost as soon as it renews is the most extreme example I've come across.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Interesting. At my place HR explicitly encourages using up all of our paid vacation days every year

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

HR wants the liability gone, your boss wants your ass in the seat 24/7. Neither are looking out for you.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Are you allowed to carry over PTO hours? I might just be a pessimist, but my immediate thought is if they ever have to let anybody go, they don't want to pay-out accrued PTO hours.

At my previous place, there was one employee that NEVER took PTO for some insane reason. Had saved up like 2 months of PTO.

He was told by HR he had too many hours and needed to use some PTO time. This specific scenario is not unheard of.

However, a month or so after he came back from a month and a half of PTO, he got laid off for reasons unknown to me.

Rumors are they didn't want to pay-out the PTO.

Honestly it doesn't make sense, they had to pay him for the PTO anyways, but when has HR made sense?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Oh that's definitely because they don't want to pay it out at the end of the financial year. But at least it kind of sometimes ends up working in the employee's favor

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I get 5 sick days a year. I can roll over sick days, allowing up to 13 sick days a year. If I use more that 2 in a row, I need a doctors note. If I use 5 sick days in a row I forfeit my bonus pay for that month. Fuck me right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

You should know better than to get sick!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have some weird memories being 12 and wanting to be American haha.

I would never

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let be honest, Hollywood is a hell of a good propaganda, I mean, it's where the shit happens

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I pretty much order my staff to take time off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Government job I had gave 10 sick days a year. Use or lose. I'd do extended weekends. Boss said he'd noticed a pattern of me calling in sick on Fridays. Well duh. Started alternating Mondays. He gave up.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Had one that let you accumulate one sick day per month, but if you didn't use them they rolled over. First few years I didn't use all of them, and then one year I used thirteen sick days in one year (most of them for kids home sick from school) and got lightly scolded for it in a performance review.

I wanted to say "Bitch why do you allow rollover at all if you don't want us using more than we can possibly accumulate in one year?!" Looked it up in the contract and it said nothing at all about maximum sick days usable in a year. Of course if you have sick days left when you leave, they pay out at one third, but FUCK that, I earned that time, I'm not taking a one third payout. And they didn't EVER give merit raises for those years I barely called out sick.

So the next year I took even MORE sick days, and afterwards made sure not to leave any unused, even if I wasn't sick, because fuck them.

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