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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Paying $700 for a locked system is crazy.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It also costs $468.68 over 7 years with the 12 month plan.

So it’s really $1168.68.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I got a great PC for that price!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

And instead of no DVD drive, you can put in a DVD RW Drive, Floppy drive, extra SSDs etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Can you expand on this, how is a 12 month pkan running for 7 years?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

He's talking about PS plus.

The "12 month plan" is meaningfully less expensive than a year of paying monthly, so he's using the cheapest option if you want to play online games (excluding sales, at least).

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah that runs a modified version of freebsd then sony locks and closed source it And if you want to play online you need to pay

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You sure? Last I remember the "crazy" quota was paying $999 for a monitor holder branded by a fruit (a bitten fruit, not even a whole one).

Joke aside, the most amusing thing, is that you have to pay $700 for a device attached to your TV, then if you want to check a website you have to resort on your smartphone or whatever shitty browser is integrated in your "smart" TV... because PS5 don't have web browser support!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A gaming GPU has cost as much as a console for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (19 children)

No one forces you to spend a thousand dollars on a 4090. An RTX 3060 will outperform a PS5 by a big margin, and for under 200 bucks

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Where you finding 4090s for a grand? Twice that and then some here.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Man, 4070ti (a midrange card) is almost a thousand. 4090 is two thousand

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

There are console comparable to RX 6600 that costs 200$/€?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 days ago (9 children)

But friendly reminder: games are almost always cheaper on PC. Maybe not at first, but very quickly.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And you don't pay a monthly fee. Which i only found out a few month ago. Like what the actual fuck

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yes no monthly fee just to play multiplayer, that one really saves a lot of money.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

My kids got a hand-me-down PS4, and I found out that we had to pay a connection fee to play online on top of my existing ISP internet fee. I had a what-the-actual-fuck moment. You're forced into the walled garden of the console maker's store and forced to pay more to play with friends? I built them both PCs and they've never really looked back.

I've never been a console fan simply for the proprietary nature of the devices along with the walled garden concept (and fuck controllers lol, I'm too used to mouse and keyboard) , but it really cemented my further rejection of the systems when it became apparent that online play was extra $.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't really matter as a PC does so much more than play games. It's like arguing that a Nintendo Switch is cheaper than an a flagship smartphone. Ok, have fun trying to file your taxes, run blender, write code, browse the web, or backup media on your playstation.

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[–] Cethin 4 points 6 days ago (5 children)

More importantly, PC has significantly more and better exclusives. Factorio, Dwarf Fortress, Ostranauts, and Squad off the top of my head that I've been playing lately. There are so many incredible games, frequently that are $20-40, that will never be on a console. They're never advertised as "PC exclusives" because there's no marketing budget to push that stupid concept, but they are. People always talk about which console to buy because they have better exclusives, but any reasonable person would choose a PC if they cared about that.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Steam Deck all the way. Also Sony's been shit since at least the 2011 hack.

You can also get PC games from all kinds of sources and sales that ultimately are far cheaper than the pithy Playstation sales. It greatly offsets costs over time.

You also have far more backwards compatibility and flexibility especially to do things with controller profiles and mods, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

all kinds of sources and sales

Looks at steam library with dozens of unplayed games purchased on sale

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention in 5 years you can replace one part on the pc and increase performance.

You don't need to upgrade every part every time

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

While this is technically true, in practice I've found there's always something the old PC is missing, tech wise.

Socket change. Ram version change. New version of PCIe.

Effectively you need to do mobo/cpu/ram all together.

The only other components are GPU and storage, which I agree are generally transferable, but depending on age you may want to upgrade too.

I guess PSU but that is thankfully something you almost never need to upgrade, unless your new GPU sucks down a lot more watts.

Maybe if I had an AM5 board I would be in a better state, but currently on AM4 so my upgrade paths are limited (already on a 5000 series chip).

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Why would I buy a digital only console for 700 usd? My pc is digital only. The only reason I even buy consoles is physical games, but Sony wants to stop giving that option.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No problem, you can put a disc drive in it for a mere $80 more!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which will require an internet connection. Yeah, no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Oh yeah, for a first time set-up, huh? Forgot they did that BS with the slim.

[–] altima_neo 25 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Remember when everyone though the PS3 was insane at 599 US dollars?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago

For context, $599 in 2006 dollars equals $911.41 in 2024

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

PS1 launched at $299 in September 1995, which would be about $614 right now.

PS2 launched also at $299 in October 2000, which would be about $541 right now.

PS3 launched at $599 in November 2006, which would be about $935 right now.

PS4 launched at $399 in November 2013, which would be about $538 right now.

PS4 Pro launched at $399 in November 2016, which would be about $520 right now.

PS5 Digital launched at $399 in November 2020, which would be about $482 right now.

PS5 Disc launched at $499 in November 2020, which would be about $603 right now.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

I remember when they announced the first PlayStation right after Sega announced the Saturn was going to be $500 and the Sony dude just came out and said "299" and then bounced.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (5 children)

You can't even get probably the equivalent graphics card in there for less than $700. I still think PCs are more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Thinking is but a step on the path to knowing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That's the radeon 6700 for base PS5, which currently costs 400€

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m just going to hang out over here with my (modded) PC games from the early 2000s that I love so much…

Modern AAA gaming is not for me.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

So they got cheaper then? They way I've always heard it is that you could always build a PC with better specs for the same price.

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