this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2024
126 points (97.7% liked)

World News

38719 readers
2362 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 19 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Remember a week or so ago when an Israeli official was calling into question the legitimate borders for countries like Lebanon? That wasn't a coincidence. These people are laying the groundwork to roll in and take over more land for their little colony.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago

"Limited operation."

"Well they have to stay to prevent threats from reconstituting."

"The settlers are just unfortunate extremists."

"Today, I recognize the Litani as sovereign Israeli territory..."

"Learn your lesson: if you attack Israel it will get bigger. FAFO."

"Lebanon is attacking innocent defenseless Jews in Israel's Litani region! What revanchism! They're stuck in the past! We must prevent the Holocaust!"

"Limited operation."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Same playbook as always for Israel. They've done this in the past with Lebanon, with Golan Heights, with Gaza, and now again in Lebanon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they're eyeing potential spoils of war? These military operations will need sources of financing.

But, realistically, they're probably planing the formation of an exclusion zone to avoid Hezbollah installing missile launchers so close to Israel's borders.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Spoils of war? On a war that they started? To pay for the military operations of exterminating Palestinians? Is that honestly how you justify this?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hezbollah has been sending missiles to Israeli territory for almost a year. So they started this war, but Israel has been very lenient by not starting a full-scale war until now. The patience has run out. Like they used to say: fuck around and find out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hezbollah has been firing missiles because they made it clear that they are retaliating over Israel's treatment of the Palestinian civilian population during their war with Hamas. Israel has not been lenient or patient in any way, shape, or form. They've been escalating these attacks with little to no justification. It's abundantly clear now they want to reoccupy the south of Lebanon for their own benefit and they are using this as a pretext.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hezbollah can throw any excuse they want, but the reality is that they attacked first. They should have known the limits of their military strength and shown restraint against a much more powerful nation. Too bad they were lacking in common sense. Now all their top leaders are eliminated, half their missile launchers are destroyed, and if a ground incursion by Israel occurs, they're basically finished.

And if Israel ends up occupying the south of Lebanon, it won't be the first time they've done so. In the year 2000, they voluntarily withdrew from the south of Lebanon after defeating Hezbollah, in the hopes that they'd stop attacking Israeli territory. Looks like being the nice guy with a terrorist group that's determined to destroy them at any cost is not a very good idea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Calling standing up for your neighbors as they get massacred and ethnically cleansed in a war that has already claimed over 41,000 civilians lives, 14,000 of them infants aged less than a year old, is not an excuse. It's a valid reason. The fact that you would call it an "excuse" goes to show how cruel and inconsiderate you are.

In the year 2000, they voluntarily withdrew from the south of Lebanon

It was not voluntary. They withdrew because Hezbollah spent years harassing them and inflicting losses until they left. You're welcome to read about it if you actually want to learn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

South Africa has been far more helpful to Palestine than any amount of missiles launched at civilians will ever be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't discount South Africa's actions and the help they provided by speaking up and if you think it was more of a benefit to the Palestinians then you're welcome to think that. But I believe people help in ways they find they are able to. South Africa has an official voice in the UN to speak up and bring up a case against Israel. Hezbollah is a militia group and political party born out of necessity due to the historical conflict in the area. They are both helping in their own ways. The degree of how much they help is always subject to interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Non-state militias attacking a country is infinite casus belli for a state to retaliate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Human rights and international law violations that Israel has committed is also a good reason to attack them in my opinion. And no, it is not an infinite casus belli. The level of civilian deaths Israel has inflicted is not excusable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lebanon has a right to defend itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Isn't Lebanon a failed state? From my understanding the Lebanon government isn't really in a position to defend anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

That's irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Is this the new excuse? What USA would do if Lebanon ask Russia or Turkey to defend its border.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

ISISreal on the march.