This is 100% to make the city unwalkable
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Amish country in PA?
I know here in Brazil there's a minimum speed limit on highways of 50% the max, but there are no signs, and it doesn't apply in heavy traffic.
In Denmark we have a single piece of highway were we have a "crawl lane". It's slightly uphill and outside the lane you must go at least 80km/h. I know it is more common in Southern Europe.
You should check with the road authority because they might be fake.
One day I was driving down a road that I'd driven down many times when I spotted a new speed limit. It was posted in a weird location and the speed was odd.
I contacted the local main roads department and learnt that they didn't know about these signs. The next day they were gone.
Agreed, having a minimum speed sign on a stroad is just begging for pedestrian deaths. It would be such an obvious liability that nobody in charge of transportation would allow it.
Every municipality has a minimum speed limit so you can’t just have someone driving 1km/h down the road creating a rolling blockade. Most are posted on the entrance into the municipality.
There are reasons for both sides to have and not have specific laws.
That sounds so reasonable. And yet I have never seen one in any country, state, or city I've been in.
I'm a traffic engineer and I've literally never heard of such a thing (except on freeways).
In Georgia it's illegal to travel 15 or more under the posted speed limit, including on non interstate roads, unless otherwise posted.
Must make turning corners, parking and dealing with hazards a wild experience.
No it isn't.
Where I’m from it’s just 20 less than the max. Conditions apply but that’s because they reduce the max
I believe in Denmark the rule is just not to be a nuisance in traffic. I'm not sure a lower limit is that necessary.
Every municipality has a minimum speed limit
(X) Doubt
Here (California) it's "don't be an obstruction to traffic", so the speed you have to go at minimum depends on surrounding traffic and the situation and fluctuates, it's my understanding that this is how most places do it so that it's flexible
And on certain roads they set a specific limit, other times its blanket low amount to make things easier, or as you said, a non specific law, so they can ticket you for essentially anything instead…
Where are these municipalities?
These are US signs and this isn't a thing anywhere that I have traveled to across the US other than the 40 minimum on some interstates and highways.
Every municipality has some form of minimum speed law, do you want me to list every single one? You even provide an example of places they are used… and want to argue they don’t exist…? What?
Can you provide an example of a place without any minimum speed laws?
In Kansas, every single street that isn't a highway, and most highways don't have minimums.
Outside of Kansas I have never personally seen them posted on anything other than highways either.
I have seen general traffic laws about not impeding traffic by going unreasonably slow, but no posted minimums.
In Ohio it’s always 20 less than current max, they just teach you it in drivers ed rather than posting it
So nobody from out of state is informed of this law?
I’m sure you’ll be informed if you’re driving unreasonably slow. But as far as I can tell it’s similar to other minor but uncommon state by state traffic violations
Maybe brush up on your traffic laws dude
Kansas allows ANY municipality to set specific minimum road limits… look at that!
Again, can you provide a municipality or even a state that doesn’t have a minimum speed law? I’ve even made it easier for you.
Every municipality has a minimum speed limit
I don't think that you understand how 'slow speed as to impede' IS NOT A LIMIT.
See law A, see law B if they want to specific.
And yes it is a limit, if you’re impeding, you’re below that limit. Some places also have adjustable signs to account for these potential scenarios.
You seem to fall in the category of people that need specific posted limits, since the concept of variable speeds seems to be lost on you. Just because it’s not posted on a sign, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist… shit take dude. Read your legislation, as well as the legislation of any places that you plan to travel too. Because you will be surprised by them amount of mundane shit you’ve missed and could be breaking the law without knowing.
And ignorance is never an excuse dude.
Reread your original post. You stated that the minimum speed is posted at the entrance to every municipality. These people are saying that they've only ever seen minimum speed signs posted on highways. Maybe that's what you meant, but your post sounds like it's posted on local roads all over the place.
Reread my post, I said most post it there, there is a lot of personal accountability to know the rules of the road of places you travel too.
And your defense is that one exists so another can’t…? Shit take.
So post a few pictures of minimum speed limit signs at entrances to municipalities. Everyone else is saying they’ve never seen that (outside of highways). Nobody is saying there isn’t a minimum, just that it’s not commonly posted.
No ones brought up the specific signs until now? Everyone has been saying there isn’t a minimum. Read the conversation? Who’s asked for a sign?
That can't be common. And I've definitely seen minimum speed signs that persisted for years so I don't find them suspicious at all
Freeways/expressways around me are 45 mph minimum. They are normally mounted below the limit sign.
https://www.twincities.com/2015/05/20/more-than-700-miles-of-interstates-in-wisconsin-to-be-70-mph/
But I have seen small tack on signs that are the same in most regards.
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SPEED_LIMIT_75mph_MINIMUM_SPEED_50mph_NO_TOLERANCE.png
https://www.epermittest.com/road-signs/minimum-speed-limit
Supposedly minimum speed limit signs do exist in California? No issue with checking anyway, I was curious is all
40 is an example of the minimum on the interstate highway.
Sorry for running over your child, ma'am, but rules are rules.
Jesus. That Chevy is right up that guy's ass.
That has to be a misprint or a photoshop. There is zero chance of a minimum 30 mph (or kph) inside city limits, especially with a perpendicular entrance/exit right there.
Maybe the installer didn’t notice it said minimum haha
Not photoshop, you can go there and see it.
WHERE
Bethesda, MD
So you have a highway through the middle of your 'town' that is actually a large city.
No??? This is just on some random side street.
Then it's a mistake.
Source: I literally have a degree in this shit.
Pretty good shot for going that fast
Speedwalking on the sidewalk has never been more fulfilling.
No Ghost Riding the Whip
Maybe there’s a local problem with cruising for prostitution?
I see your logic and had the same thought, but then wouldn't a "No stopping at anytime"/"No parking" sign accomplish the same thing? "No Loitering" sign as well. If the point is for the cop to be able to point to a sign, those already exist and are much more broad and easy to use(or misuse, depending on your perspective). Like others said, an absolute minimum speed limit seems destined to harm pedestrians. Plus, you can see it's before a stoplight. So not even logical.
I'm betting this is a fake sign.