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[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They come right out and say they can collect and share your sexual activity, health diagnosis data, and genetic information

Dude what the fuck

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I would like to know specifically how a car company can collect sexual activity and genetic information. The genetic information thing really sounds like FUD.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it FUD if it's a direct quote from Nissan's privacy policy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm sure it's there and I'm sure they wish they could get that info. I just don't see how they could beyond making some pretty wild inferences.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Maybe from genetic testing companies that sell that to data brokers, which a car company could enrich your personal information with?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not to mention some of the other information listed like sleep patterns. How do they get that data?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Android auto maybe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you not nap while commuting?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I've been asleep since 2019

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I could see certain accessibility settings of cars such as color blind settings, bold text, even physical personalization ordered for the car based on hereditary or not genetic conditions falling into that category.

Some companies will find that information useful for ads I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As mentioned in another comment, the link takes us to the parent page where you can choose a brand (and presumably then, a model) of car to learn about.

I noticed that Mazda isn't included among their brands so I sent a suggestion, thank you! I didn't know that they provided privacy support for so many devices - they even have the Nintendo Switch in there and all kinds of categories: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I also noticed Mazda wasn't on there. Doesn't even come up in a search. Does that mean they're more respectful of privacy?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

It means that they haven't reviewed them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

No, it means they haven’t investigated them. If they had they would include them on the list and tell you the details.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (5 children)

What would you need to do to make a car dumb? Remove all connectivity chips? ECU swap? Flashing custom software?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Thats the easy route, but i had hoped it would be possible to do something with newer cars. Looks like old ones might fall out of favor of laws in the future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I'd think just unhooking the antenna would do it, it might stop working eventually though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Usually, the efficient goal oriented are dumb enough like ebikes. I am guessing investing in Aptera would be a great option for a to b daily driving. Aside from that, custom computer to control the car is the most logical step until you get into electric or hybrid type vehicles where the aftermarket is not big enough. Removing wireless connectivity fuses are another option but I don't know if a service shop will connect the fuses defeating your privacy. Also a phone app will always be anti privacy. Make sure to get products without apps or wireless connection capabilities as manufacturers start preventing you from using products without registering it with an app first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

My LEAF has a 3G radio. It's useless now. If it were still connected, I could yank it; you can have any shop do the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Feel like it could be as simple as removing a fuse (or fuses) in some cases.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Joins in 1978, 1987, 1990, 1992 Volvo. I have a problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If that's a problem, I'd hate to see the solution

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Well I also have 2 Toyotas and boarding a 67 crowd mower

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

2009 vibe.

Other then the 420 error. My car doesn't tell anyone anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

All of them are voted super creepy lol

[–] possiblylinux127 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've got a 2005 Subaru forester. No privacy problems so far

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

My car is a 2015 and I'm in no hurry to replace it, but I can't help but worry about the future. I like replacing the head unit in my cars, and it's going to be a worse and worse option as time goes on, potentially resulting in losing actually useful features.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Somewhat related but does anyone have any recommendations for aftermarket gps trackers (not navigation)? I drive maybe once a week so I'm looking for something with a battery life longer of 10+ days

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Look for any of them that wire directly to your battery and don't need to be charged. A GPS pinger uses very little energy so you shouldn't need to worry about much battery drain

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://www.piped.video/watch?v=eIryvRwxp9A

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

think of all the trashed, cluttered garages those sensors scan and photograph every day