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[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 days ago (2 children)

lmao:

Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “[email protected]” as your referrer, and they'll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America. . If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.

Edit: source page: https://www.apologize.lol/

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How does that even work? I'm not in USA so I can't even access that page.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Musk put up a PAC that pays non-voters in swing states $47 to register to vote (because the next president will be #47). I'm not sure if he has restrictions on his thing, like maybe you have to live in a red area in a swing state or something. Anyway, I think CAH has set it up so you can redirect that money to them instead.

Last I heard, you weren't supposed to give people money to register to vote or promising to vote or anything like that, but trump was filmed giving out hundred dollar bills last week, musk is handing out money for registering, and now this. I'm not sure what's going on except everything's really fucked.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you weren't supposed to give people money to register to vote or promising to vote or anything like that

It's also incredibly stupid. You have no way of tracking who someone votes for once they're in the booth. If I was in a swing state I'd be happy to take musk's cash and vote for Harris like I was always going to do.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

This is why it's (sort of?) legal to do what they're doing: paying for someone to vote a specific way is illegal for sure. And paying someone to vote is also illegal. But I believe that paying someone to REGISTER to vote is legal so long as you do not actively restrict who can participate. It's also okay to pay someone to write down a plan on HOW to vote, and to pay someone to write shit on the internet.

So yeah. It's very borderline. But I think it technically passes muster

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I get it's a counter protest, and it's probably supposed to feel slimey and manipulative, but that's all I feel from it. I don't see some good side to this. I just see an overall destruction of our ideals.

It's a sad state of affairs when the jesters are the only ones left speaking the truth. Satire has become reality.

It's exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's bad for public schools to have religious officials as part of their staff. When The Stanic Temple does it the point isn't to have people say "it's okay when people we like do it" the point is to say "you guys are bending the rules? Okay, we'll bend them until they break to force you to put a stop to it."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The difference is they follow the law to show it's absurd logical conclusions. This is just breaking the law as well. This is not the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They are literally asking people to post that this should be illegal.

Everyone is posting about getting paid for their apology. I did my part by getting a pack, and I want to post, too. What should I post?

You should post:

How is this not illegal??? Cards Against Humanity is PAYING people who didn't vote in 2020 to apologize, make a voting plan, and post #DonaldTrumpIsAHumanToilet—up to $100 for blue-leaning people in swing states. I helped by getting a 2024 Election Pack: www.Apologize.lol

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How does the Musk part work? Musk launched a petition to pledge support for guns and free speech (I think that is what it is about, I did not read it nor understand how that is a petition). To AstroTurf support for the petition, he set up a referral code system. If you get a voter in a key state to sign the petition and say that you told the voter to sign, Musk's Super PAC will pay you $47.

Getting people to sign Musk's petition feels a bit wrong, even if the money is going to what CAH thinks is a good cause.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Man, USA politics are wild.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Boring dystopia moment

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Open the link. "Half of Americans didn't vote in the last election". Me: that can't be right, let's fact check.

Oh, yeah, 150 mil voted, 150 didn't, but that's a 66% turnout. On top of that turnout is higher in the blue states. Oopsie. See the map. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

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now that I've read the whole PAC thing it also makes sense why it was started. The data is on their side.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm all in favor of getting people to vote, but it seems out of line to pay people to vote (or at least claim they're going to vote) for your party. Even if the other guys did it first, an eye for an eye makes the world blind.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They say it shouldn't be legal. The first answer on the FAQ:

"Whats happening?

Cards Against Humanity is exploiting a legal loophole to pay America’s blue-leaning non-voters to (1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media. This whole thing should probably be illegal—so quick, give us your money before they change the law!"

The entire FAQ is worth a read, it's pretty funny

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's not asking for either of those things. The site's terms explain it pretty plainly:

We are running a promotion to encourage eligible voters in the November 5, 2024 General Election in the United States that were eligible but did not vote in the 2022 or 2020 general elections to apologize for not voting (the “Promotion”).

[...]

ii. Receive an Entry by completing the following process:

  1. Entering your phone number;
  2. Entering your name, state of residence, and email, or additional information if needed to verify whether you voted in the 2020 General Election;
  3. If you did not vote in the 2020 General Election, enter your apology for not voting;
  4. Create a voting plan for if you would vote this year;
  5. To receive the full benefit, post on social media that #DonaldTrumpIsAHumanToilet. Not posting on social media will result in a reduced Benefit.

iii. “Voting plan” refers to your receipt of and acknowledgment of information on how you could legally cast your ballot in the November 2024 General Election.

iv. We will not check, confirm, or in any way ensure that you actually vote or follow the voting plan that you made. Creating a voting plan is not in any way a pledge that you will actually vote, and the Benefit is in no way conditioned on voting, or pledging or promising to vote. VOTING, OR NOT VOTING, IN NO WAY IMPACTS ELIGIBILITY FOR THE BENEFIT, OR THE AMOUNT OF THE BENEFIT.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure it's in reaction to Elon promising people who vote 47 dollars. You know, actually advertising to buy actual votes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Well, the other side is doing it so they're doing it almost identically so if they get in trouble for it, Musk should too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I agree. But it is a great example of why this is a shit idea that shouldn't be allowed in the first place which I wager is at least partly what they're going for

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Apparently it’s in response to Musk and Trump handing out money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

they are not paying people to vote, they are paying people to apologize for not voting.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

New from J.D. Vance: Hillbilly firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Perfect. That really is one of the best cards in the game.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have a new pack of CAH ordered for the first time since I wanted a good jar of clamonnaise

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