Just logged in, just found it, just opted out. Thanks for the heads-up OP.
But fucking fuck. Can we put a stop to this? Legally? We could call it sometime like... The National Opt-out Policy Elimination (NOPE) Act or something.
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Just logged in, just found it, just opted out. Thanks for the heads-up OP.
But fucking fuck. Can we put a stop to this? Legally? We could call it sometime like... The National Opt-out Policy Elimination (NOPE) Act or something.
It should have to be opt-in ☠️
Most things should be. Hell, one of Google's biggest public failures was building an opt-out social media network that let all sorts of people see who you've emailed lately.
Same... So tiring. Fighting to not be someone else's product just by existing
Where is the option?
In the app - Profile - Data & Privacy - Personalized Shopping
Sigh.. Not showing up for me. Is this affecting all regions?
I'm in Australia, not showing up for me.
Thank you for this! They don't exactly make it easy to find.
Yeah, that's illegal in the EU.
Hence it only applies in the US.
I only skim read, but the provided link seems to me that opting out isn't an option:
However, if you would prefer to decline them, then you will need to close your PayPal account prior to the applicable effective date, as described in the user agreement.
Well, bye PayPal
Exactly. That's how you opt out of this shitty practice.
Thanks for the heads up 👍
Here's the direct link to disabling it but I assume Capcha or login will probably get in the way: https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/settings/recommendations
Fucking legend. Thanks for the direct link and for (unintentionally) reminding me that it was time to change my PayPal password!
In the Android app, open your profile, tap Data and Privacy, then Personalized Shopping, then toggle it off.
I'm just on Firefox mobile and had to do this,
1: log in
2: tap the hamburger then the settings icon
3: data and privacy then 'personalized shopping'
I Don't Forget, I Don't Forgive.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilymason/2022/10/27/after-paypal-revokes-controversial-misinformation-policy-major-concerns-remain-over-2500-fine/
That was the moment I already deleted all PayPal accounts. To never return back.
Can’t read Forbes b/c of ad blocker.
Is it the fine or the redaction?
After facing backlash earlier this month, PayPal PYPL +1.9% rescinded a line in its policy stating that spreading misinformation on the platform would be subject to a $2,500 fine. Today, the remaining language leaves users and elected officials demanding more clarity over how the platform defines fine-worthy speech.
A part of PayPal’s user agreement that says any customer in violation of the platform’s “acceptable use” policy is subject to a $2,500 fine has been in place since at least 2013, according to the website’s archive. The fine had largely gone unnoticed until earlier this month when PayPal updated its acceptable use policy to state that messages which are “fraudulent, promote misinformation or are unlawful” are in violation of the policy and, by extension, subject to the fine. The “acceptable use” policy stated that determinations of which messages violated the policy would be made at “PayPal’s sole discretion.”
After drawing intense backlash from commentators stating that the policy could infringe upon free speech, the company rescinded the line in the policy citing misinformation and issued a statement saying it was posted in error on Monday, October 10. "PayPal is not fining people for misinformation and this language was never intended to be inserted in our policy," a spokesperson for the company said. PayPal’s former president David Marcus was among dissenters, posting a tweet objecting to the policy update, which was amplified further when Elon Musk responded “Agreed.”
“PayPal’s new AUP goes against everything I believe in,” Marcus’ tweet reads. “A private company now gets to decide to take your money if you say something they disagree with. Insanity.”
The note about misinformation was removed from the acceptable use terms, but the $2,500 penalty for violations remains, causing continued concern.
PayPal’s website still lists “provide false, inaccurate or misleading information” under the “restricted activities” portion of its policy. Violating the “restricted activities” portion does not result automatically in the $2,500 fine that breaching the “acceptable use” agreement does, but it may still result in charges, account suspension or other punitive actions.
Unfortunately for PayPal, now that the $2,500 fine has landed in the public eye, it has fallen under close scrutiny. “Concerned about this language still in PayPal’s terms of service – it’s vague and seems like it could be weaponized to control speech,” Representative Tom Emmer (R - MN) wrote in a tweet on Thursday.
The ordeal has spurred a call for people to delete their PayPal accounts with #PayPalCancelled and #DeleteVenmo gaining momentum on Twitter. Where the policy finally lands may be especially relevant to PayPal’s Venmo, a peer-to-peer payments network with a social media feed where users share messages attached to their public transactions.
Misleading. This only applies to the US.
Was gonna say... The EU would have been up their arses with a cactus for that.
Replied to another poster as well, but this setting is present in my UK PayPal account too and needed turning off.
Sigh, yet another enshittified service to cancel.
As much as I support the notion. Some people, I'm thinking especially about international buyers and sellers, aren't going to be able to do this. PayPal has too much of a monopoly on that front.
Lol, paypal now has an option to store your SSN and passport info. What a scam.
Account deleted.
https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/ -> Delete your data / close account
Oof. Thanks. I deleted mine as well. Never really use it anyway because I was always afraid of what they might do with my money.
Thank you. Just closed my account. Didn't need it anyway and I sure as fuck don't need to be generating income for PayPal anymore.
Thanks for the heads up, I would have missed that.
Venmo is owned by PayPal, but I couldn't find any information about if similar Venmo TOS changes are planned or already in effect.
At least 3 states have common sense laws to auto opt-out. I think every state should have these privacy laws, even if those 3 are minimal at best.
Anyone know if this applies to Canada too? I looked but couldn't find it.
US:
https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/privacy-full
Last updated on March 28, 2024
Canada:
https://www.paypal.com/ca/legalhub/privacy-full
Last updated on July 24, 2023
So I'd guess not.
But you might just want to keep an eye on that, because just because they haven't changed it today doesn't mean that they won't later. Like, if their people are thinking that this is a good idea to make money in the US, they might also think that it'd be useful in Canada. Don't know if Canada has any restrictions on such a change.
Page mentions “Notice of Amendment(s) to the United States PayPal Agreement(s)”. So it’s likely US only (for now).
If you don’t see the “Data and Privacy” option to opt out on their website or app. Then it’s likely they are not sharing your data, yet.
good thing i canceled my paypal account years ago and specificially told them to delete all information about me, not that i have much trust they obey the law if they can get away with it
Luckily my country has a standard payment system for every bank in the country so I don't to use this shitty ass service