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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Wouldn't 50% of them die at the same time as the creatures that they live inside? Like unexisting 50% of humans would in fact unexist 50% of the bacteria in the humans who went poof.

How does this argument make sense?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If it's all a truly random selection, which I believe it was, then half of all people would cease to exist, leaving half of their gut biomes behind, still alive (albeit briefly). I guess the end result would be the snapped people leaving behind a mist of gross intestinal bacteria which would itself mostly die out without a host. Meaning much more than half of all gut biome bacteria would be killed as a result.

Of course it would make more sense to consider a person and their gut flora as one being, but the joke is about how stupid the initial conception of Thanos' plan is, not creating an academically rigorous argument.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Thanos' plan was unmitigated garbage anyway.

Humanity reached 4B in 1975 and hit 8B in 2022. On that basis, if half of humanity died when Thanos snapped his fingers 50 years later we'd be back to 8B people again.

——— Edited to billions not millions because I wrote it while under the influence of stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (7 children)

That is NOT how species replicate. There are many factors where that number comes from. Including food and space to keep them. I read in college the max for humans is something like 10 million. But most scientists think it's a already slowing down due to the struggles everyone deals with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Building additional supply depots removes the cap

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

That would imply that 50 percent of the snapped people's biomes remained behind. All of the produce in the grocery stores would be covered in an airborne mist of E. coli, and snapped surgeons that were mid-operation would give their patients staph infections, assuming the suriviving surgery team was able to stablize and close them up before they died anyway. Neat.

Also when those snapped people returned with the half of their biomes that also got snapped, you would get a sequel to the diarrhea. Diarrhea 2: Electric Boogapoo.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (5 children)

There were zero reports I've heard from any TV, movie, or comic reference to the snap of unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap. That suggests the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't consider the unborn as a separate individual until birth.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap.

This scenario didn't even enter my head when I posed the question. That's some Stephen King-level imagery though—a snapped mother disappearing only for an amniotic sac to drop in her place.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Finally someone asks the real question. Is there an objective definition to life that Virus may or may not fall under? Or would it depend on Thano's subjective opinion on the matter?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You've opened your inbox to a scientific debate that has raged since virology began.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Killing 50% of your gut bacteria is a big nothing.

These things reproduce on the timescale of hours.

I kill 90% of my sourdough starter every time I feed it, and it bounces back the same day.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, I have been on antibiotics that wiped out most of my gut bacteria. It was easy to upset my stomach for a few months, then I was fine.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Nah the 50% left would quickly replace what was snapped away to the limits of their environment. They multiply fast.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

E. Coli reproduces so fast that a population can double in size in half an hour, and human feces is 50% bacteria by weight.

If your gut microbiome got snapped it'd be back so fast you wouldn't even notice. Bacteria are kinda scary.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, worst case scenario stock prices for probiotic yoghurt would increase.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wait, do you have a source for the 50% number?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

The second most significant ingredient after water is bacterial biomass — both alive and dead organisms; this makes up 25–54 percent of the dry weight of poop.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324254#:~:text=The%20second%20most%20significant%20ingredient,walls%20of%20the%20gastrointestinal%20tract.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or the 50% of all people that got snapped took 50% of the gut bacteria with them, leaving the rest with no loss to their gut biomes. (taps forehead)

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (7 children)

50% of all ≠ 50% per person

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Right? Taking even the people who disappeared into account, and their gut biomes, would you not consider them all as part of all life?

If so, there may be some survivors with all of their guy biomes perfectly intact, and others who get unfortunately zilched.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Come to think about it, whenever a macroscopic organism - ie animals - died it would leave behind about half the microbes living on and in them. When those poor fools got dusted it should have left a puddle of horrible slime on the ground.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

She makes a compelling argument.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Thanos' snap wouldn't kill 50% of each survivors' gut microbiome, it would kill 50% of all the lil buggies that compromise all gut microbiomes, and if the snap effects individuals randomly, you'd see a normal distribution (I think, I haven't taken stats in a decade). So some survivors would retain 100% of their microbiome, some would lose it all, with a bell curve in between, probably with the peak around 50%.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

That bell curve would be extremely narrow. You have so many lil buggies that basically every human survivor would lose ~50% buggies.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I want the show where the snapped people come back and then the survivors have to awkwardly explain that they have gotten remarried and otherwise moved on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That actually happens in some of the TV series from that story arc.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Look, we're in the realm where the guy decided to remove 50% of all life... as a resource conservation attempt.

Lovely movies, but the "guy's a literal death cultist" required way less suspension of disbelief. Jilted incel Thanos pining after an annoyed Aubrey Plaza or whoever would have been way more timely, too.

But if we're doing it this way... 50% of the plants, algae and plankton would have died too. XKCD MUST have figured out what that'd do to the atmosphere by now, right?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Does that mean for the people that got snapped, some will leave some of their sperm behind?

And pregnant woman might leave their fetus behind.

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