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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
Example (others have been removed as that person has been banned)
Hey! I'm the clueless guy who posted thinking it would just be our instance...
You know what they say, you can't make an egg without breaking some omelettes or something...
ANYway they got real nasty with our mods and admins and I think they really outdid themselves this time, so much so that we are having a vote now on both hex and grad even though the main admin was not on my side initially.
Their worst enemy is themselves.
Funny, because not too long ago I saw a bunch of HBs and MLs going on about how "the libs can't go more than one comment chain without wishing death and torture on anyone not voting like them"
Now who else do I know of where every accusation is a confession... Or projection, if you will.
Seems like a lot of them like to Gaslight, Obstruct AND Project.
I've always felt this way about tankies and the horseshoe theory in general. Conservatism spawned from the "Bourgeoise"; all the religious lords and landowners who profited from, and supported, monarchs and authoritarian rule. Tankie belief systems align with that "bourgeoise" perfectly.
The concept of authoritarian socialism is a contradiction. Without democracy, freedom of thought, and freedom of person — from fear of retribution for wrongthink — the workers never had a say; never "seized" control of anything. Tankies are nothing more than a continuation of the authoritarian rule that came before them. Both Hitler and Trump have said they represent the wprking class. Saying you represent the working class is meaningless. You need to prove it with your actions.
Ultimately tankies are closer to the Tsars, Kings, and colonialism they replaced, than they are to the concept of freedom and equality for the working class. They just want to be the oppressor, and probably believe that communism is the best chance they have to ever be in a position to fulfil that role.
I agree, though I think they latch onto communism as a sign of virtue signalling.
Sprinkle in a healthy dose of AstroTurf and you get a nice little cult growing.
Hexbear users very literally threatening to kill me is one (just one) of the reasons I hate that instance. The .ml instances aren't much better.
.ml is just the public facing arm of the same terroristic people. An example is "Sinn Féin" from the IRA times.
"Colonoids," that's novel. Seems like there's some overlap and cross-pollination with right-wing (particularly incel) rhetoric, huh? Still, nice to see frauddogg moving beyond "peckerwood" and "cracker." Variety is the spice of life.
You clown little did you know I can't seem to read
I'd be a lot more interested in hearing there point of view if it had evidence backing it up. There beliefs are more religious than anything. Its like asking a Catholic to prove creation.
Slurs are ok as long as they’re on the approved slurs list
If it looks like a duck... These people are not leftists in any fashion whatsoever.
It's almost like reducing human interaction to two poles, Left and Right, is a fool's errand leading to indoctrination and segregation and is generally just a silly thing to do
So, one of the more conservative Hexbear user then?
What is hexbear? I have heard many people taking about it, but sure why users from that instance are aggressive/rude
A role-playing instance where disaffected middle-class American boys act as third-world revolutionaries from the mid-1980s.
Oh and they like to communicate by image reactions because that's how Twitch raised them.
I have to disagree with users saying it's just a bunch of communists and rich college kids.
I think the core of that instance is a state-funded disinformation effort. Sure, there are real people on there, especially vegans, leftists extremists, queer people, Arabic people, because they're the target of their propaganda.
"State funded" could mean anything.
Although now that I think about it Lemmy could be state funded.
I think it's the CCP, distant second guess is the Kremlin.
it's basically reddit but edgy by rich college kid standards
Reddit is 50/50 Tankies & Nazis. Fediverse is like 90% Tankies & other terrorist simps, even outside of the Tankie instances. It's a complete clown show on all platforms honestly. I almost wish climate change wasn't such a slow cooking thing.
Its more of a vocal 1%
That is an awful way to look at communities. You should probably expand your horizons a bit and start interacting with more people
I mean, I blocked all the .ml / hexbear / grad communities, all the news communities and all the other communities who refuse to moderate disinformation or calling me a troll for reporting & calling out terrorist simps, all the meme communities, all the sport communities... Not much left here I'm afraid and it makes me wanna interact less with people, not more, since apparently the world is just going insane it seems.
Yeah I agree that there's a lot of bs on lemmy. but reddit is more normie, I don't think it's a split between nazis and tankies
I guess if you're looking for them that hard then it's all you'll see in your feed. Where do you buy brushes that big, btw?
I don't, that's the problem. It's not really my fault that suddenly everyone roots for Hamas & Hezbollah or thinks other nonsensical bullshit.
Maybe it's only a way for them to express their disagreement with the actions if the israelian government ? As this is deemed antisemitic, it might cause overreaction...
Yeah, no. If you're simping for literal terrorists just because "Israel bad" then you've completely lost the plot. If Israel would act like those groups, the death toll, destruction, and other crimes would be in the millions. One can disagree with the Israeli government and still not end up simping for terrorists. I do, and I get shat on from both sides for it. Great times.
Well, it's a little more than " Israël bad". More like "Israel supposed to be good but kills tens of thousands of children, women and men, destroys any possible future for nations (incl. itself), ignores UN resolutions for years and is actively expanding colonies on extremist religious grounds and far right supremacist views". So " Hamas bad" ....
Call it whatever you want. It still doesn't make terrorists good by proxy of Israel's sins.