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I have never thought about the fact that manhole covers need to hold up to weight. Of course they do and it's perfectly normal and sensible. It's just not a thought I've ever had.
Technically it's the manhole covers that need to support the weight.
Manholes themselves are expected to do the opposite of holding weight
Manholes themselves are expected to do the opposite of holding weight
They hold light?
It's dark inside so of course the light is held □
Structures underground experience buoyant forces that act to push them up. Manholes (and any structure bottom, like storm inlets, pump station wet wells, etc) need special consideration since they can be partially or mostly hollow, so they have to be heavy enough to remain in place.
You know, I knew that but couldn't figure out what the opposite of weight was for some reason. Thanks for the extra learning!
Fun fact: Coffins experience this force too, and during flooding can rise up out of the ground
Ah, that explains why my grandpa was buried in a lead coffin.
He lost a lot of weight right before he died, so he was too light!
Right, so the light is actually pushed up by these buoyant forces and I guess that then also explains why it's so dark underground. Fascinating how learning some little new details about the world can sometimes make it all just click together!
But does that mean that light is actually hollow?
Well we know light is concentrated into comparatively tiny, but heavy points in the universe (stars), while dark fills the vast vacuum of space. So light in itself is likely denser than dark, ergo the light we have on earth must be forming hollow structures to remain lighter than dark when comparing by volume.
Gravity force is so strong even the candlelight can't esc- oh wait...
Technically, the walls of the manholes, in turn, support the weight of the cover and whatever load is on top of it. The entire manhole is a weight-bearing structure.
For formula one races they weld them down to stop the cars incredible downforce from sucking them up into the air. Even then they sometimes get torn up and thrown around.
Very important to take them seriously.
Manhole covers are also a common exercise for engineering students. Like designing one that can hold x amount of weight with a specific set of limitations and/or requirements.
Obviously in the dystopia of Night City, lighter weight manhole covers were approved for road use purely to cut costs, and any deformed or destroyed covers have the cost offloaded to the poor rube who last ran them over.
So it is technically canon that cars start flipping or crashing for no apparent reason - the goddamn manhole covers broke.
Doesn't explain the driver still sitting in the smoldering ruin and laughing while on fire.
Nah that's just the implants frying
Most of the complaints about bugs in this game seemed overblown, but this is unforgivable.
Most of the complaints about bugs in this game seemed overblown
You should've tried it on PS4 at release. It was glorious. I did have a ton of fun because of the bugs (couldn't progress in the game much) but if I had paid for it I would've been pissed
This is part of the test you need to ace if you want to get German citizenship. We have some standards
We, in fact, have many DIN standards.
And nowadays they are supplemented and partially superseded by European EN directives. This is the kind of stuff that hardly anyone realizes but is enormously helpful in everyday life. Your toilet seat breaks, you just go ahead and buy a new one. Its mount points, dimensions, and load bearing characteristics are standardized so no need to get a degree in toiletology or whatever. Just buy any one you like. Same idea with light bulbs, printer paper, piping connections, door jambs, etc. etc. Standardization makes life SO much easier.
This is something I’ve noticed since living in Germany. I’m from the US, so I don’t know if it’s a metric:imperial thing or a German specific thing, but things are way more standardized here.
You’re not always allowed to fix your own appliances (or you can, but your insurance will be nullified for any even remotely related- like replacing the foot on a washing machine means that water damage from an unrelated leak in the washer’s drum years later may not be covered), so the standardization doesn’t always pay off, but it’s definitely standardized.
It's not a bug, it's a feature, in this dystopian world nobody cares about manhole cover standards anymore.
You underestimate the Germans
This is what makes it a dystopia for us.
this is like people on r/DeepRockGalactic complaining about the smallest things
To be fair, double spaced where there isn't supposed to be one is really noticeable.
I feel the same about misalignment
I mean, I'd totally believe that night city isn't in compliance with their own manhole safety code
german humor, wonderful
And then they fixed it, right? Right?!?
These numbers don’t align though. 4271 is not a Bxxx or Dxxx and also isn’t on that diagram on the left. I’m so confused rn.
B and D are weight classes. B 125 is tested to 125 kN, D 400 is tested to 400 kN.
DIN 4271 tells you how manholes of class B are to be build.
I see the number in the diagram now after looking more closely. Also seems the number is upside down in the game.
I unironically love germans
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What a nerd.
Wintermute would complain about such mundanity.
Worst game ever -1,000,000 stars lol
Rivet counters have come to video games, I see.
You should look at the War Thunder forums....
But why's it say DIN 4271 tho?
DIN 4271 is the number of the standard that describes how to build manhole covers of type B125.
The correct manhole cover should probably state something like DIN 19584, which I think is the standard covering the B400 class manhole covers.
I've seen a manhole cover with din 4271 printed on it in Germany before. I've no skin in the manhole cover game tho
According to this, it would make sense to see one on a sidewalk, but not on a road.
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Wait til he sees the road design.
Uh, learned